As someone who has had family oppressed by the British and who proudly sings anti British songs I have mixed feelings about this. I don’t think she personally was a bad person and as a figure head didn’t really play much of a role in British policies. She also presided over the decline of the British empire. She still symbolized an empire and her families personal fame and fortune were from that. She was a graceful anachronism who headed an institution that should’ve ended long before. I know this is a very sad day for the British and all of those who are fascinated by royalty. For them they have my sympathy for me this is just another celebrity passing.
Some British people I know described it this way: She represented a lodestone to their identity as British and as a citizen of their country. The vast majority of them have never known another monarch and now their cultural lodestone is gone. They had more invested in HER than her TITLE after 70 years. They describe the feeling of sadness, not just for her passing, but for the loss of a little something inside them that is British.
She would have needed 1 and half years to break even to and surpass Louis the 14th as the longest ruler in world history.... Tidbit.
*shrug* I guess it is time to pop her in a Glass Box and put her on tour in museums around the world. Rocket River
Meh, keep it moving. She was a famous person purely because of who her parents were. She did a lot of bad stuff in her life, let's not ignore that.
"They'll have to make the pound notes bigger to fit his ****ing ears on them." -- Brit friend on Charles
The collective Black Twitter is roasting the Queen as a colonizer and tweets celebrating her death are really irritating me. Indian Twitter too. Irish Twitter to a much lesser extent. Queen Elizabeth was a pillar of the 20th century and her reign will never be replicated.
Can you blame people who were raped , pillaged by her empire and expect them to give the same condolences they never got?
Not a single person on Twitter was subjected to the empires brutality. Queen Elizabeth was the face of post WWII UK, not some tinpot warlord.
She represented an Empire that was built on the exploitation of people from the jungles of Malaya to the streets of Belfast. Even now the Crown still holds onto works of art and historical items that British took from places like Greece and China.
And yet people from the commonwealth and former colonies continue to migrate to the UK, as well as Canada, Australia, and New Zealand because that former empire had robust and resilient institutions (governing and economic policies) that are still functional and relevant today whereas other former empires lack that continued magnetism. Queen Elizabeth was the Queen during decolonization. She was neither directing nor overseeing the violence the UK used to maintain the remaining post WWII colonies.
Australia and NZ have strong Republican movements and have had votes to do away with the monarchy. Those haven’t succeeded yet but there is a significant portion of their population along with the British population itself that recognizes the monarchy as an anachronism. While yes the British empire had some good things about it, so did the Mongol Empire. If you ask most aboriginal Australians, North Americans and Māori they certainly weren’t happy about the British empire. Indians, Malaysians, Egyptians, and Irish are happy to not be part of it anymore even with their current problems. At least half of the Scottish don’t want it be apart of it along with a fair amount of Welsh. Yes acknowledged that and personally I view her as a gentle anachronism. That doesn’t change that her fame and wealth were built on centuries of empire.
They were just talking on one of the news stations about how if you were anti-imperialist UK, you should love her because she oversaw the reverse of colonization in a pretty darn peaceful way over the last 70 years.
Sorry, this is probably D&D territory, but... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Mellon-professor-vile-tweet-ailing-Queen.html "Critical Race Theory" professor full of hate.
Right, and not a single person today directly* experienced slavery. Ignoring the generational effects of raping and pillaging a land to serve your own is naive. I’m sure you know better than those people though
She didn't allow people of color to work for her until the late 60s and she protected her pedophile son. So I think she is personally a very bad person and I only wish she would have died sooner. On top of all of that the EPL might be cancelled this weekend. Screw this POS bag!
