Quanell X humiliated, marginalized by large crowd in Pasadena

And people like you supporting a hot headed redneck who told the dispatcher he was going to kill those guys before he even went outside to confront them is incredibly stupid. You can not take the law in your own hands and that is what he did.

 

Well you start with murder or manslaughter. He can assert the statutory defense of defense of another's property, and we can decide whether what he did meets the statutory defense definition...which I have my doubts about.

Think there's something illegal about ignoring the police dispatcher regarding getting involved?

Look...had he walked into the house and been surprised by these guys and shot them..I wouldn't have a problem with it. I have a problem with him specifically telling the dispatcher he was going to go kill them....this dispatcher telling him not to...and him hanging up, ignoring the warning and trotting over there with his shotgun with every intention of doing nothing short of killing these guys. I draw GIGANTIC distinctions between that and self-defense. And if the law truly protects that in Texas, then it needs to be changed.

 

depending on how you read that statute.

my understanding is this happened during the daytime. when we looked at the statute before, it seemed to protect him in events where he's seeking to defend property of another at night. i don't have the statute in front of me, but i remember reading it in another thread on this very subject.

 

There's a huge difference between condemning a vigilante for killing a burglar and supporting home invaders. Both of the burglars should have gone to jail. If it were up to me, they'd be put on a chain gang. But killing two men over stuff is immoral.

 

Living 3 miles from there means I know people who know Joe Horn and they say he's a hot head.

Joe Horn told the dispatcher he was going to kill the burglars because they were stealing from his neigbhors. What Texas law defends that action?

 

Well most law experts disagree with your opinion. Listen to the tape, dude. He's a hot head, he was in no way speaking to that dispatcher in a calm rational manner.

 

Unfortunately, the new version of the castle doctrine does.

 

They should all be shot as far as I'm concerned, maybe then I wouldn't have to worry about these scumbags breaking into my house and putting myself and my family in harm's way. He wasn't taking the law into his own hands, he was within the stated law as mentioned before. If you don't like the law here in Texas, take your ass somewhere else where they just give the burglars a couple days in jail and say have fun when they let them out. Because we all know that jail helps all criminals and they never do harm again once they are let out.

 

If you think they should all be shot, then perhaps you will listen to your own logic.

In America we believe in the rule of law, and also against cruel and unusual punishment. Death penalty without trial for a simple burglary is certainly cruel and unusual punishment.

So if you don't like the constitution and legal system in the U.S. you can take your ass to another country where most severe punishment without a fair trial can be dealt out.

 

yes i guess those p*****s in california only give you two days in jail for burglarly. you make perfect sense.

 

I will reference whatever I want to. The dude is a redneck, deal with it. When he goes to trial his state of mind will be very relevant.

I believe the homeowner has to ask you to watch over their property and Joe Horn admittedly barely knew his neighbors.

 

Thank you. There are too many that want to turn this into a racial issue. This has nothing to do with race and anyone that thinks it does is a racist.

 

I'm not arguing the horn case. What did you read and fail to comprehend?

He said they should all shot. If you're familiar with the basics of the constitution, and American principles you would know that the line of thinking is in contrast with the American way.

I'd like to see you come out here and defend the American Constitution about cruel and unusual punishment. Your patriotism is currently suspect.

 

Burglers - knew that they were breaking the law and there was a chance that they could suffer dire consequences.

They gambled and lost.

DD

 

I think one of the Joe Horn supporters said it all with his sign.


Wrong Place
Wrong Time
Wrong Neighborhood


Whether you think he was in the right or wrong, I bet no one breaks into a house in that neighborhood for at least 5 years.


Personally, I think they should give Mr. Horn a medal. A shiny one with ribbons.