Quanell X humiliated, marginalized by large crowd in Pasadena

Did I say it was purely a race issue? I said:


a certain type of demographic, whether black or burglars or combination of both


I didn't say race was the SINGLE reason he chose to murder them. (Yes, I'll say MURDER.) There has been no evidence to make that conclusion. However it is within the realm of POSSIBILITY, do you not agree?(or do you have evidence suggesting it is not?) Is race such a sensitive topic I can't even mention the possibility it could have been a contributing factor??

It's more believable than that bogus SELF DEFENSE crap you guys been spewing.

Again, I never said he killed them BECAUSE they were black. It could have been just because they were burglars..... OR because a combination of BOTH. Do you have evidence suggesting any of these are improbable? If you do please show me.

What I do know is, from the tape it was apparent there was ANGER and anger doesn't just appear out of thin air. So there OBVIOUSLY is a reason behind it.

Bigtexxx don't jump on me for something so irrelevant just for the sake of arguing. I never jumped to any conclusions. Stick with the issue on hand. If you can't come up with good reasoning behind Joe Horn's actions don't go about attacking other posters. I guess he's not a racist but he's still a cold blooded killer

 

It's amazing how you think people are siding with burglars. No one said the burglars didn't need to go to jail. What we are saying is that Joe Horn is not a law enforcement officer and had no damn business interjecting himself in to that situation.

As far as the racial angle.... I'll stick with what a friend of mine who knows Horn said about him. He's a redneck.


FWIW...Channel 2 reported this morning that both burglars were shot in the back.

 

don't you know the simple black and white debate style of the trader_texx combo. you criticize the iraq war, you hate the troops and support terrorism. you think joe horn wasn't justified in shooting two guys in the back, you support home invaders. you're probably a home invader yourself, and a terrorist.

 

Simple definitely applies to their views on this case.....

In true criminal fashion, Joe Horn let self justification, anger and impulse dictate his actions.

 

i am surprised that trader texxxx et al still support this man after he endangered the life of a plain clothes police officer who was at the scene preparing to apprehend the criminals. the police officer was afraid to approach horn because he felt he might be killed!!

 

is it very hard to understand that people who think Mr Horn did something illegal think that

premeditated murder<>self defense

law>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vigilantism
life>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>material possesions

 

#1 = true as a national reality
#2 = true as a spiritual philosophy

but,

somehow saying "my 200 year old samurai sword is worth less than some thieving punk's life" just doesn't sit right with me. Nor seeing some thieving punk make off with my neighbor's prized 4th generation art piece from the homeland.

 

This case has Law & Order written all over it.

 

I honestly can't think of any material possession that is worth someone dying for. They are just things.....

I don't know. I'm sure someone can think of some extreme case like my great great grandmothers ring who died in the holocust or something...but I would say in like 99% of the cases most stuff isn't worth dying for. It isn't like we can take it with us.

 

As I suspected, I am a patron of the business that Joe Horn's neighbors own. I spoke briefly about the situation with one of the people who live in the home that was burglarized. I sensed a lot of worry about Joe Horn's future. The neighbors do support Horn.

 

dude, I was gonna post the same thing, especially when the report about the undercover officer came out. this case is made for television

I was on the treadmill last night at the gym, bill o'riley was on and he was talking about this case. of course he had to sensationalize it some more with something about horn receiving death threats.

 

If Joe Horn shot them in the back, that significantly alters my views.

DD

 

If we cared so much for one another why are there wars. Why do people fight little pieces of land in the middle of the desert. Our society is dictated by laws and if we don't stop lawlessness it is bound to run amok.

 

If the Cops had been the ones who killed those 2 burglars in the manner Horn did, it would be difficult to find any supporters for the cops.

 

If in the back.....it makes all the difference.

Is there any confirmation of where they were shot?

DD

 

News report after news report say the autopsy reports show they were shot in the back. It was the lead story in the Chronicle on Saturday morning.

 

Agreed. That's why we all pay taxes to support the administration of justice through police departments and courts. Tha's creating order. That's enforcing the law.

 

I have no doubt that the neighbors are concerned about Horn, I wouldn't want my neighbors going to jail because I like my neighbors and they are my friends. That still doesn't change that if one of my neighbors did something like this I wouldn't think it was stupid and reckless.

I've never faulted Joe Horn for not thinking he was doing the right thing. I'm sure he had good intentions but that doesn't mean what he did was right.

 

oh good you're here...I think we found a friend of yours

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=139082&page=1&pp=20

 

I'm glad you are willing to take that into consideration. As many of us have been saying we have no problem with killing in self-defense but this isn't a situation of self-defense.

Joe Horn deliberately put himself in harms way against the advice of the police. From everything I have seen it is a clear fact that he shot at least one of the suspects while they were fleeing away from him.