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Quanell X humiliated, marginalized by large crowd in Pasadena

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Dec 3, 2007.

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  1. Icehouse

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    Dude, you think burglars are horrible. We get it. I do too. Lucky for us simple folks the laws in this country don’t hand out death sentences for stealing.

    How can you say thieves are slime (I agree with you) yet say folks who drive drunk just make a bad decision (i.e. forgivable)? I would bet more folks die from drunk driving then from having their houses broken into.

    My house was burglarized at least 5 times when I was growing up (once while we were at home). No one ever tried to kill us. I realize we were fortunate, but I just wanted to mention that so you can get off the “someone went into Sean Taylor’s house a week earlier” rant. Isolated situation, just like mine were. You can’t equate stealing with they want to kill you. That’s why we have laws to prevent folks from just shooting anyone doing a crime that they are strongly against. My family drives on the freeway….so is it cool for me to sit outside a bar and pop every drunk person I see opening up the drivers door? That’s how silly you sound…..
     
    #421 Icehouse, Dec 5, 2007
  2. Rocket River

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    If that is so . .this case is no different

    Rocket River
     
    #422 Rocket River, Dec 5, 2007
  3. Bandwagoner

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    You thought the USA leads the world in executions. Why do you want to bash the USA so much?

    Where has our national pride gone? Its not a matter of the USA sucks its a matter of people wanting to put themselves down.


    I don;t know if you just assumed we lead in executions or what but you believe false truths just to make USA look worse.
     
    #423 Bandwagoner, Dec 5, 2007
  4. Mr. Brightside

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    I have no problem with what Joe Horn did, but the crowd is repulsive in this video. Why the heck do you chant "USA" over and over again. It makes no sense.
     
    #424 Mr. Brightside, Dec 6, 2007
  5. Pistol Pete

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    Maybe they thought Hacksaw Jim Duggan was in attendance. The USA chant seems to follow him around.

    Both sides of that protest came off looking ignorant.
     
    #425 Pistol Pete, Dec 6, 2007
  6. Rocket River

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    Actually I was referring to Texas. .. I beleive we lead the US in exectutions

    Rocket River
     
    #426 Rocket River, Dec 6, 2007
  7. Deckard

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    Why did McNair name the team "The Texans." It makes no sense. People don't always act rationally, even "smart" ones.



    Trim Bush.
     
    #427 Deckard, Dec 6, 2007
  8. A_3PO

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    Easily. For that matter, Harris County probably leads the U.S. in executions by itself.
     
    #428 A_3PO, Dec 6, 2007
  9. HOOP-T

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    #429 HOOP-T, Dec 6, 2007
  10. bigtexxx

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    guess what....the burglars were illegals from Colombia. fabuloso.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5359290.html

    Dec. 7, 2007, 1:23AM
    2 shot in Pasadena here illegally
    1 man had been deported in '99; officials looking at possible ties to a burglary ring


    By ROBERT CROWE
    Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle

    Pasadena protests collide Two burglary suspects shot by a Pasadena homeowner last month were illegal immigrants from Colombia, and one man had been deported nearly 10 years ago, authorities said Thursday.

    Authorities also said they are investigating whether Diego Ortiz, 30, and Hernando Riascos Torres, 48, were part of a crime ring linked to burglaries and the use of fake immigration documents.

    The two — killed by a Pasadena man Nov. 14 after he said they were trying to steal his neighbor's property — were in the country illegally, according to Leticia Zamarripa, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    Joe Horn, 61, shot Ortiz and Torres, who went by the alias Miguel Antonio DeJesus. Horn called police after hearing breaking glass. He ignored an operator's warning to not go outside with his gun.

    Pasadena Police Department Capt. A.H. "Bud" Corbett said Torres was deported to Colombia in 1999 after a 1994 cocaine-related conviction. He was on parole until 2017, Corbett said.

    Police found a Puerto Rican identification card on Ortiz. He had two aliases.

    Torres had identification cards from Colombia, Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. He had three aliases.

    State and federal authorities are investigating whether the two men, who lived in southwest Houston, were involved in the crime ring, Corbett said.

    Police found almost $2,000 in cash in a white bag the men allegedly took from the home in the 7400 block of Timberline before Horn shot them.

    Investigators also are trying to determine whether the men knew about the home or family before burglarizing it.

    "I don't believe the victim was a random choice ... but there's no evidence of a relationship either," between the homeowners and suspects, Corbett said.

    Horn told the operator that he did not know his neighbors well. Neighbors said the family moved into the home next to Horn's house about four months ago.

    "I can't comment," a woman at the home said over the phone Thursday night.

    A source told police that Ortiz and Torres burglarized the home, in part, because the homeowners were immigrants.

    "They targeted foreign-born people," Corbett said. "They felt they were easier victims."

    Little is known about the homeowners, who have Vietnamese surnames.

    Neighbors said they own a small business near their Village Grove East subdivision.

    Records filed with the Office of the Secretary of State of Texas show that the family owns a dry cleaning business on Fairmont Parkway.

    Horn has received an outpouring of support from some neighbors, friends and strangers, but the incident also has outraged activists and other neighbors.

    Activists and Horn supporters clashed Sunday when they staged dueling protests outside his home. The homeowners association is trying to prevent more protests from being held in the subdivision.

    Chronicle reporter Susan Carroll contributed to this report.

    robert.crowe@chron.com
     
    #430 bigtexxx, Dec 7, 2007
  11. KingCheetah

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    I wonder if Quanell knew these guys weren't black?
     
    #431 KingCheetah, Dec 7, 2007
  12. El_Conquistador

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    Sounds to me like the burglars were the ones who were the racists... take note, Quannel X and his supporters here.
     
    #432 El_Conquistador, Dec 7, 2007
  13. vlaurelio

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    didn't they article say the burglars target immigrants? most immigrants here in texas are hispanics.. so the burglars are racists against their own race?
     
    #433 vlaurelio, Dec 7, 2007
  14. El_Conquistador

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    :confused:

    That's some wild logic right there... Vietnamese targets, Colombian burglars ... that's the same race?

    Stick to the Hangout forum, VL. It's less intellectually rigorous.
     
    #434 El_Conquistador, Dec 7, 2007
  15. vlaurelio

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    they just happened to be vietnamese.. the article clearly says burglars target IMMIGRANTS in general.. learn how to read cheapass

    LIFE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$2,000
     
    #435 vlaurelio, Dec 7, 2007
  16. Bandwagoner

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    Oh so you just such at pronouns?

     
    #436 Bandwagoner, Dec 7, 2007
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    Despite what a lot of people are saying here are some facts.

    We have two people who broke the law, and didn't hurt anyone. We have no idea if they would hurt someone or not.

    We have only person that we know for sure would kill others. That would be horn.

    He would not only do it, he would think about it beforehand, announce that he was going to do it, and do it even though it wasn't necessary and trained professionals were telling him not to.

    Yet the one killer in this situation is the person many people are siding with.
     
    #437 FranchiseBlade, Dec 7, 2007
  18. MadMax

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    yeah...he should watch that grammar, spelling bee champ. :D
     
    #438 MadMax, Dec 7, 2007
  19. Bandwagoner

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    more facts

    "killer" = no criminal background

    "victims" = alleged ties to organized burlary

    Many times in self defense the defenders intentions are announced. I still support people who kill others in self defense. Do you?
     
    #439 Bandwagoner, Dec 7, 2007
  20. MadMax

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    That would be relevant if this were a case of self defense.
     
    #440 MadMax, Dec 7, 2007
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