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Quanell X humiliated, marginalized by large crowd in Pasadena

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Dec 3, 2007.

  1. Pistol Pete

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    No they wrote it to allow someone to protect elderly neighbors, sick neighbors, neighbors who are family not some cowboy with a short fuse who thinks he's Marshall Dillon. And a request comes in either written or verbal....
     
  2. MR. MEOWGI

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    Sean Taylor was shot in the leg and died by the people who burglarized his home.
     
  3. MLittle577

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    It appears his fatal flaw was contacting the police before going to do his 'civic duty'.

    Apparently, the law is on his side if he calls the cops after he protected his neighbors stuff.
     
  4. danny317

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    sorry but sean taylor got shot in the leg. the bullet hit his femoral artery. he basically bled to death.

    so if horn shot those guys in the their legs, we could quite possible still have the same outcome.
     
  5. A_3PO

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    There are two issues here.

    You are dead wrong to say every burglar is willing to kill. That is very unintelligent.

    I don't have a problem with a burglar being stopped with deadly force during their crime. Few of us do. Nobody "trusts" a burglar either.
     
  6. JumpMan

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    That wasn't my point... What I'm saying is that you don't need those specific dollar bills to recover money, because my dollar bill or hundred dollar bill or hundred dollar bills are worth exactly as much as yours or anybodys for that matter.

    How was he supposed to know that it was a bag of money? Did it look like this?

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    You're trying to hard to defend this guy.
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

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    I didn't claim they want to, but they most likely would. If they are capable of one then they are certainly capable of the other. I will give them no benefit of the doubt. They absolutely do not deserve it.
     
  8. George Gervin

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    well at least he would have given them the chance to be dealt with under the law..I venture to guess that had he not shot those 2 men and simply held them until police got there they would have never gone back.. if he had not shot them we could have had the same result. men in jail and property protected.
     
  9. danny317

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    just as hard as many are trying to crucify horn.
     
  10. danny317

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    i read that they already had criminal records. so im pretty sure they would have burgled again.
     
  11. MadMax

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    Murder in the Texas Penal Code is taking a life knowingly or intentionally.

    Manslaughter is taking a life recklessly.

    Intentional – With respect to conduct or result of conduct, the actor’s conscious objective or desire is to engage in the conduct or cause the result.

    Knowingly – With respect to the conduct or circumstances, the actor is aware of the nature of his conduct or that the circumstances exist. With respect to result, the person is aware his conduct could reasonably cause the result.

    In Texas there is no need for premeditation....only the intent to kill.

    This guy absolutely intended to engage in the conduct or cause the result. He said he wanted to. That's murder...unless he has a valid defense regarding protecting someone's property. Short of that, he's in big trouble.
     
  12. MadMax

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    crucify? no.

    hold accountable? absolutely.
     
  13. vlaurelio

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    did mr horn know that?
     
  14. MR. MEOWGI

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    No, but they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
     
  15. rocketsjudoka

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    All the prosecutor needs to do is play the tape. I mean any one on trial will try to cast doubt on the evidence by stating that wasn't their intention but since we aren't telepaths we have to rely on the evidence. The evidence here clearly speaks of intent. IMO you are ignoring the evidence through psychological speculation when the evidence is as clear as day.

    The only issue to me in regard to whether he is prosecuted is whether the allow actually allows someone to kill with premeditation.
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    Have you ever shoplifted? Have you ever sped? Have you ever jaywalked? Have you ever smoked mar1juana? Just because someone commits one crime doesn't automatically mean that they will commit every crime.
     
  17. Refman

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    I would recommend that the Dalai Lama not rob my house then.

    I respect how you feel about protecting life. I must tell you though, if I see somebody robbing my house, I am certainly not going to politely ask them if they are armed before getting the drop on them.
     
  18. MadMax

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    That wasn't a response directed to you at all.

    I'd also suggest that your hypo is dramatically different from what happened here. I don't think you're off the hook enough to call 911...tell them you're going next door to kill people you suspect are robbing the house...disregard them telling you not to....grabbing your gun...walking outside...and shooting these guys in the back. I'd be astonished frankly if you did that, knowing you.
     
  19. Refman

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    I feel the need to be clear on this one.

    1. If I lived next door to you, you had better believe I would intervene.
    2. The intervention would be at gunpoint, unless I knew they were unarmed.
    3. I would be praying that they would run away or sit and wait until the cops got there.
    4. If they tried to rush at me or pull for a weapon, I would defend myself.

    In short, if he went over there with the intention only to kill, and nothing else, then he's nuts. Responsible people do what I ennumerated above.
     
  20. MadMax

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    He shot these guys in the back, right?

    And I would say it was less than responsible to ignore the 911 dispatcher in the first place. He told the dispatcher he was going to kill them...the dispatcher said not to...he did it anyway.
     

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