I don't think he has Russ type athleticism. I think there's a general misconception that CJ Stroud is more athletic than he actually is. He's fluid, and more mobile than Mills for sure, but he's not fast at all. Just look up all his scrambling plays on youtube and you'll see he's not that great at it.
Because he’s not a one read QB, and he has far more mobility than some. You are detracting from one of the highest rated prospects ever……..wonder why
Only focusing on his Alabama film you can see in the very first play that he worked his way down to the safety valve. Play at 2:20 showed him step up and deliver to a secondary target and the announcers even call it out. I dont want to be dense, but lets have fun with this discussion in good faith! No need to glance at high school tape anymore IMO. Im starting to really like is play action game the more I watch.
I agree, but he doesnt need to have straight line speed to pick up 3rd and 5. Someone else said he's like Dwayne Haskins! Do Stroud look like a 5 second 40 guy to you? This is a good piece to sift through on the subject: https://lastwordonsports.com/collegefootball/2022/02/20/how-c-j-stroud-can-improve-in-2022/
Comparisons to Haskins or Fields are lazy. I'm not saying that he can't run. I'm saying that he's not particularly good at it. If I were still in college, I wouldn't be trying to run either because it's far more important to keep developing your throwing ability. Even Matt Ryan can scramble 5 yards if given the opportunity, so I was just refuting the Russ part, because Russ was a 4.5 40 guy and Stroud is more like a 4.7-4.8 guy.
Some of those times can be deceiving. Davis Mills supposedly ran a 4.58 Hopefully Stroud runs at the combine I'd be curious to know what he tests at.
That's why its even more important that a QB is comfortable scrambling if they need to. Doesn't matter how fast you are, if you aren't comfortable running in game situations. This is why even though Joe Burrow is technically slow, he's a decent scrambler, because he's comfortable running. Mills looks like he's about to trip over his own feet any time he even thinks about running. Stroud isn't that bad, but he certainly isn't on Bryce Young's level for instance. Bryce doesn't run that much, but when he does, he looks comfortable and that makes sense since he was ranked the number 1 dual threat qb coming out of high school.
This was not a suggestion, but more of an assessment of what could happen if the pundits are correct. I've spent 60% of my life in the "what will happen next" business, so I'm naturally inclined to post with that in mind. I'm probably neutral on Mills at this stage. I don't think he's "gutter trash", but he isn't exhibiting the traits needed to be a successful QB either. A lot of excuses can be made why he isn't performing, but bottomline is he's not. Can that turnaround? Yes, its possible, but the trend is not moving in the right direction. This week we play the Jags and they're trending in the right direction. They may be a good case study for us to review to pursue our own turnaround--New coach, #1 pick franchise QB, solid defense and good RB. We have a few of those pieces, but DW's ascent as a rookie spoiled us as to what we expect from any new QB. Mills doesn't have that kind of potential, but I do believe he still can develop into something. What that something is, I don't know.
I presented the high school tape only to show that he does not go through his progressions. Apparently, he has never been taught to look off. Everything he has learned in high school has been carried over to college. He is not progressing. To me, it only shows he's not getting better. This is why I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Coach Kelvin Sampson. He said something recently during an interview that was so profound, he said kids should chose Coaches and not Schools. Many 4 and 5 star kids go to UT and A&M because it's a big school, the glamour but they fail to get better and do not go to the NFL or have short careers. Every yr those 2 schools have Top 1 - 10 Recruiting Classes but only turn out a handful of NFL talent. UH turns out more NFL Prospects and they maybe get a 4-Star every other yr. Which brings me back to Ewers. I only knew of him when UT played Alabama. I didn't see anything special then, however people on this board kept saying he was a 5 Star, generational player. So to be fair I decided to look at his scouting reports and highlights to get a feel of what he brings to the table. And the first thing that stood out was he never looked off, NOT ONCE! Not then and not now, he's the same player. I didn't see him scramble because he always had a clean pocket. He does have an arm but I just didnt see anything that would make me draft him in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round.
He was able to read defenses well in high school and the Horns would have beaten Alabama if he hadn't gotten hurt. His experience is about a half of college football. I go be what I saw in highschool not a half of college ball. Plus he's learning a pro style offense under the guy who helped develop Hurts,Tua, so the odds of Ewers succeeding at a high level is way above avg. Because he has much more God given ability than either Hurts or Tua. IMHO Thanks for the reply.
Williams is my number 1 guy in 2024. The beggars can't be choosers attitude is why the Texans org has sucked for over 2 decades.
Well, I have to go by what I saw on tape and his HIGHLIGHTS, which are his best plays, show that he is not reading defenses. It shows him dropping back in a clean pocket and throwing to the first WR he looked at. I'm not refuting what you're saying you saw but that's what I saw in tape.
The Texans have sucked over the yrs because of the QBs they've decided to go with; David Carr, Schaub, Hoyer, Osweiler, etc. They've had opportunities to pick good players. Case in point, they had a chance to get Peyton Manning and decided to resign Schaub. PEYTON MANNING! They're definitely without talent at the QB position now, so, whomever they pickup in the draft, FA or trade is better than they have now. Thus beggars can't be choosers.
Just imagine Dre’s stats with Peyton at qb. Wow. And Peyton wanted to come here so he could destroy the colts twice a year.
You don't like the bootleg? Oh you mean Kubiak stopping the Manning signing. At the time he was loyal to his QB, the great Schaub.
They've had the QB issues you're talking about because they went with your beggars can't be choosers philosophy.
Kubiak wanted Peyton and Peyton wanted to be here. But RS had just extended Schaub coming off of the lisfranc, against Kubiaks wishes.
The way I recalled it, it was Peyton who wanted to play for the Texans but Kubiac chose to extend Schaub. Schaub was extended prior to the N.O Saints pre-season game, I'll NEVER forget that.....I WAS PISSED. Then the idiot went to Denver and won a Super Bowl with Peyton.
