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QB or NOT QB.....

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by hlmbasketball, Aug 24, 2022.

  1. hlmbasketball

    hlmbasketball Member
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    That is the Question!

    Mills, Allen and Driskel, are any of them the long term answer? At best Mills looked avg last year and Allen and Driskel have been career backups.

    Whatever draft position we're at next year our main focus needs to be QB! Average or below average QB play will not get you to the Super Bowl.

    Should the Texans go after a QB next yr, by using all of their draft capital if they are not in the Top 3?
     
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  2. MadMax

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    I'll be able to answer this question better after the season is over.
     
  3. FEDEXROCKETS13

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    Preseason is where all questions are given definite answers, not the regular season lol
     
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  4. Fulgore

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    Save this thread til about November. Will have an answer by then.
     
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  5. red5rocket

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    Never seen anything in Mills. I think he’s a career backup.

    Fight me!
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    Maybe, maybe no
     
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  7. hlmbasketball

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    I think Mills needs to start showing something and soon. If he continues to play like this and it continues into the regular season, his career could be over early.
     
  8. Mr.Scarface

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    How about we wait til the season plays out?
     
  9. Colt45

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    Nah, I think I'll listen to the Einstein that spent a week ranting about how badly the Browns robbed us in the Watson trade.
     
  10. hlmbasketball

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    I'm sure Caserio will wait until after the season but will Lovie, regarding playing time? I'm sure he wants to win, he seen firsthand the play of Mills, Allen and Driskel.

    However, a more important point is, it looks like the Texans finally have a RB1 in Pierce. Which makes it more urgent to fine a starting caliber QB, since a running back's shelf life is 5 yrs.

    The Texans need a QB.
     
  11. Phillyrocket

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    Texans are in a good spot. Let Mills have the season either he does well and we have our answer or he sucks and you tank and draft a QB.

    What you don’t do is yank the kid if he struggles and go with Allen or Driskell. Sure as hell those two aren’t the answer.
     
  12. Agent94

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    He looked like Aaron Rodgers against the Chargers.

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  13. javal_lon

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    Gonna be a long season , so I'd rather answer now... Yall act like yall don't know how this season gonna play out.. lol

    1. Hell no , Mills ain't a franchise QB but he's good enough to navigate this rebuild with low expectations..

    2. Trading all their draft capital for a QB isn't in NE South's best interest... Though I think they'd be stupid enough to do it for DE Will Anderson or some other projected defensive stud ..
     
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    Perhaps unfair to Stroud & Young, they’re their own guys but…

    Brodie Croyle(2006/3-85)
    John Parker Wilson(Undrafted)
    Greg McElroy(2011/7-208)
    A.J. McCarron(2014/5-164)
    Blake Sims(Undrafted)
    Jake Coker(Undrafted)
    Jalen Hurts(transferred to Oklahoma; 2020/2-53)
    Tua Tagovailoa(2020/1-5)
    Mac Jones(2021/1-15)
    Bryce Young

    Craig Krenzel(2004/5-148)
    Troy Smith(2007/5-174)
    Todd Boeckman(Undrafted)
    Terrelle Pryor(2011 supplemental draft; moved to WR)
    Braxton Miller(2016/3-85; moved to WR)
    J.T. Barrett(Undrafted)
    Cardale Jones(2016/4-139)
    Dwayne Haskins(2019/1-15)
    Justin Fields(2021/1-11)
    C.J. Stroud


    Other potential QBs…

    Dane Brugler’s Top 50

    3. *C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State (6-3, 220)
    Stroud certainly benefits from Ryan Day’s offense and the elite talent around him, including a pair of first-round receivers in the 2022 class and a few more coming through the pipeline. But isolating the quarterback and his traits, Stroud’s passing anticipation and even-keeled focus on each play are remarkable. Stroud is a steady and generous facilitator — he trusts that his receivers are going to be where they need to be, and he delivers a catchable ball so receivers don’t have to work too hard for it. I’ll bet on those traits every day.

    5. *Bryce Young, QB, Alabama (5-11, 197)
    The size concerns will follow Young throughout the draft process and his NFL career, but his list of strengths as a quarterback is extensive. And at the top are the two P’s: poise and processing. He is patient, yet assertive and composed, and he routinely is able to make a spontaneous decision. Young does a great job keeping his feet connected with his eyes to alter his platforms, eliminate things quickly and find the vulnerable matchup downfield.

    11. Will Levis, QB, Kentucky (6-4, 230)
    In most physical categories, Levis is the prototype. He is well-built with impressive play strength and athleticism for his size. As a passer, Levis has a lightning-quick release with a whip for an arm and above-average velocity to make every necessary throw. He has the talent to deliver from whatever platform necessary and is just as comfortable outside the pocket as he is driving throws from a 3-yard drop. In terms of recognition and consistency, Levis isn’t a finished product, but the talent and intangibles are why he warrants this lofty ranking.

    27. *Anthony Richardson, QB, Florida (6-4, 238)
    Based on sample size (66 career pass attempts), Richardson’s scouting report currently requires a great deal of projection. But there is no college quarterback with more raw talent. He is a well-built, twitchy athlete with the speed to gash defenses with his legs and the big body to power through tacklers. Richardson has a powerful arm (both velocity and distance) to put the ball anywhere on the field, and although his delivery is a little long, the ball explodes out of his hand.

    49. *Tanner McKee, QB, Stanford (6-6, 228)
    McKee isn’t without flaws, but I was impressed by his ability to find his balance as a passer to show off his NFL-level arm and mind. He is a fantastic rhythm passer with the ball placement and vision to work through progressions, horizontally and vertically.


    Scouting the 2023 QB Class

    Preseason top 20 senior quarterbacks:
    1. Will Levis, Kentucky, (6-4, 230)
    2. Aidan O’Connell, Purdue (6-3, 212)
    3. Phil Jurkovec, Boston College (6-5, 219)
    4. Devin Leary, NC State (6-1, 217)
    5. Hendon Hooker, Tennessee (6-3, 221)
    6. Brennan Armstrong, Virginia (6-1, 210)
    7. Jake Haener, Fresno State (6-0, 209)
    8. Ben Bryant, Cincinnati (6-3, 213)
    9. Clayton Tune, Houston (6-2, 213)
    10. Sam Hartman, Wake Forest (6-1, 210)
    11. Cameron Rising, Utah (6-2, 216)
    12. Jayden Daniels, LSU (6-4, 185)
    13. Kedon Slovis, Pittsburgh (6-3, 212)
    14. Spencer Sanders, Oklahoma State (6-1, 219)
    15. Tyler Shough, Texas Tech (6-5, 229)
    16. JT Daniels, West Virginia (6-3, 215)
    17. Tyson Bagent, Shepherd (6-3, 219)
    18. Gerry Bohanon, South Florida (6-3, 229)
    19. Jaren Hall, BYU (6-0, 204)
    20. Dorian Thompson-Robinson, UCLA (6-2, 197)

    Preseason top 10 draft-eligible underclassmen:
    1. C.J. Stroud, Ohio State (6-3, 220)
    2. Bryce Young, Alabama (5-11, 197)
    3. Tanner McKee, Stanford (6-6, 228)
    4. Anthony Richardson, Florida (6-4, 240)
    5. Tyler Van Dyke, Miami (Fla.) (6-4, 225)
    6. Grayson McCall, Coastal Carolina (6-3, 210)
    7. Spencer Rattler, South Carolina (6-1, 210)
    8. D.J. Uiagalelei, Clemson (6-4, 250)
    9. Cameron Ward, Washington State (6-2, 225)
    10. Connor Bazelak, Indiana (6-3, 220)
     
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    I want to be fair but to me Mills is not progressing into a NFL Starter. He made a pass or two last night but he is a JAG. I think we need to start watching a lot of college ball this year.

    I think the Teans can win 7 - 9 games. They have a good running game and a defense, so they will be in every game. Which means they will be drafting anywhere between 5 - 15.

    What QB will be on the draft board then?
     
  17. cmoak1982

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    Will Levis should be there in the 5-9 range. Him and Richardson have the best physical tools by far in the draft. Levis has better numbers. Levis is a Josh Allen clone
     
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    I would hope that Nick would never put this franchise in the hands of an Alabama or especially an Ohio State qb. Rollin with the General
     
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    Levis might end up first overall. Which would push Stroud and Young down. I’m still not sold on either of them.
    Young’s arm talent is insane, he’s just so small
     

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