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Putin's Useful Idiot At Work

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  1. Tomstro

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    She mentions Timber sycamore Op.
    was what led to the collapse of Libya.
    Hillary and Obama were smuggling US weapons through Libya to Syria Islamic “rebels” and then lost some serious **** which is why they sent the diplomatic mission to Libya and leads to the whole 13 hours thing which they then chose to ignore and blame a YouTube video.
    Just abandoned the People they sent to clean up their mess.
     
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  2. deb4rockets

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    I agree with this assessment 100%.


    Trump’s Affinity for Putin Grows More Consequential Than Ever


    Trump’s affinity for the Russian president boils down to “autocrat envy”— that he covets the power Mr. Putin has to make decisions in Russia without any constraints.

    “Trump likes Putin because Putin has control over his country,” she said. “And Trump wants control over his country.”

    He has gutted American foreign aid programs that Mr. Putin has long detested, including pro-democracy programs in countries like Hungary that Russia is bringing closer into its sphere of influence. He has sidelined European allies, saying they are untrustworthy and suggesting they might have to fend for themselves in the future.

    “What is Putin getting? He is getting more than he and other former K.G.B. officers ever dreamed of,” said Calder Walton of Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, who wrote a book on the history of espionage between Russia and the United States.

    “This is the dismantling before our eyes of the U.S.-led international order, something that Putin has worked toward his entire career,” he said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/08/us/politics/trump-putin-russia.html
     
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    So...about Tulsi:

    https://theweek.com/politics/list-tulsi-gabbard-controversies
     
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    But you supported Harris who is a complete scumbag too
     
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    Do you seriously not see a problem with a liar and propaganda spreader to head National Intelligence?

    By the way, I only voted for Harris because I could never vote for a compulsive liar and con man like Trump. I can see already that he is exactly who I thought he was. A self-serving wannabe King.
     
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    I can't stand Trump. I don't support him on most things.

    I chose not to vote because both candidates were worthless. First time in my life. I just don't like the Harris support. Do appreciate the respectful response
     
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    Much like "science", "quotes" are a liberal plot to impurify your precious bodily fluids. -- RFK, Jr. (probably)
     
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    I can’t figure out what the left wants other than
    No change

    The only thing that’s constant is change


    It’s just so funny you think because some DC rag writes an article they must be right?

    You post that crap today, a hit piece probably released around her confirmation vote, after she was just proven absolutely correct about Syria?


    It’s all so orchestrated.
    All of it . They fund NGO

    NGO makes another cut out. Give them money. They then smear, smash the right.

    Bunch of Tesla’s got set on fire last night. That’s funded too.
     
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    I'm all for some change, but not in the radical way Trump is doing it, and certainly not to appease the billionaires as top priority for our future. They sure as hell don't have everyone's interests as their priority. It's all about making themselves future oligarchs.

    I also hate the fact that he's deliberately trying to strip away what should be a bipartisan justice system.

    You can't weed out corruption if you have MAGA loyalists replacing bipartisan investigators, and FBI, CIA, and intelligence officials meant to be bipartisan in enforcing the laws. That goes double for those who have echoed Trump's lies and propaganda. It just reeks of corruption at the top to me, especially when so many of the replacements in the military, and the head of the FBI and National Intelligence agencies are far from being the most qualified to replace the previous heads.
     
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    You are too partisan. You absolutely think that the Biden administration was not corrupt. I cannot take that seriously.
     
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    He didn't start firing the heads of all the bureaus, investigators, judges, and prosecutors, and inserting loyalists, his personal defense lawyers, multiple CNN hosts, left wing podcasters, conspiracy theorists, and a bunch of billionaires into those positions who had less qualifications than their predecessors. He didn't start making foes of Democratic leaders and aligning with Dictators. This has never been done before. I think your partisan take is what can't be taken seriously. You know damn well Trump is a pathological liar who wants to rule like a King.
     
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    She is a very odd women - I don't know if she is morally bankrupt and just shifts to whatever personally benefits her (Graham, Rubio, McConnell, Harris) or if she just does not really know how to judge character - in either case it is concerning.

    I can give her a pass on some of her past - her being against males participating in female sports is not extreme, as most Americans, including democrats are against it.

    I could even understand her position on Assad, based on the idea that at least he was a stable influence in the Middle East and he was not a religious extremist and punished those that were terrorists and attempted to enter Syria. However, she has gone overboard on that - and doesn't seem to acknowledge that Syria was the Russian base in the Middle East for Putin.

    As for Russia - I cannot really defend that, she has said many things that are just objectively false and continues to do so.

    While I do not agree with Nikki Haley on some important political issues, she has more of a moral compass and back bone than 90% of the Republicans and Democrats in positions of power.
     
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    I could have lived if Haley won, still will but life will be more difficult because of the type of chaotic person Trump is. He's just rolling dice at this point and betting on snake eyes.
     
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    Nikki and Tulsi are great. Far better than anything the Dumbocrats trot out
     
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    Your life is more difficult? Your life wasn't good to begin with. Not surprising
     
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    Act blue gets funded in all kinds of sketchy ways. Make some other organization and pays protesters. Losers. No conviction.

    I’ll say whatever for a few shekels… Judas did too

    Act blue was funneling congressional approved money for NGOs right back to the Dems to block Trump and the right.

    Which means the republicans in Congress are massive p*****s
     
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    Glad to see you still attacking folks and claiming to be the victim, typical MAGA logic. Groceries up, random tariffs on select goods, cpu/gpu chips prices climbing, but keep being the bitter fool that you are.
     
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