It is a strange thing. Their own party is on-board with the sanctions, yet a few extremists prefer a murderous, authoritarian, corrupt foreign politician in a desperate effort to slam the President of the United States of America.
Its only been a month and 3 weeks since the elections and liberals continue to lose their s*@!. How does the "best president ever" manage to ensure that courts, congress and the white house were ALL losses? Why arent left wingers taking time to analyze the state of their party and how Trump...won... Instead its the Russians... This US propaganda pushed by the MSM and the Obama administration is pathetic...and may even be a distraction
What are you talking about? Being upset that a foreign rival nation hacked into U.S. computers and tried to change our democracy isn't losing anyone's s*@!. It's actually a sane response by Americans, not just liberals. Mitch McConnel, Lindsay Graham and others aren't liberals. You can keep defending foreign espionage agains the United States, but if you do just realize it isn't the liberals losing their s*@!. It's you.
Bunch of flip floppers.... it was weak and naive when Obama hit the reset button 8 years ago but now they wonder why can't we just be friends?
Trump won because a bunch of folks without personal responsibility in the rust belt and appalcachia can't compete in the real world.
I think there was plenty of examination with tons of different answers. But what's the point of micro-analyzing how Hillary didn't quite do make enough appearances to shop workers in the rust belt, and if her message had been slightly more geared to specific policies than broad generalizations, when she lost to a guy who advocates war crimes as foreign policy, and makes bigoted statements against sitting Federal judges?
Ask yourself this...Would you be asking this very question if there was credible evidence that the Russians did alter US elections if Hillary won? Why the fck is this even a question now? The fact is there are bitter folks that just cant accept the election result and will go ape s@#t... It was blown off on this forum by many as a bogus, made-up theory when Trump even suggested it just a few months ago. Now all of a sudden the Russians are involved? What does that say about the state of our nation... The nation that created the internet are now getting pwned politically by foreign interests? That we as a nation are pathetic ...as Russia supersedes our abilities in tech and cyberwarfare? OR that this is all just made up by the MSM and the Obama administration in order to save face for being a failed divisive leader...I tend to believe the latter. If the current US administration had a shred of integrity, they have a duty to elucidate the American people as to what Russia and their government did with concrete tangible evidence...NONE of which exist. Instead the usual defense by left wing whack jobs are...the "rust belt folks are uneducated...unable to compete in the real world..." The petulance...arrogance. It is of epic proportions. Wanna convince me to consider your beliefs as someone with a different opinion...step 1 would be to STOP being a prick to those who have a difference of opinion. So the basic take home point for me from the most current liberal viewpoint is..."the Russians hacked into millions of emails that show shady practices within the DNC and HRC campaigns...Un-fabricated accurate emails from prominent sources within the democratic party have shown the American people how they were being duped... For hacking these emails, the Russian government should be punished." SMDH...
.... yea you need to do better then a bunch of word garbage. Maybe format it better? What happened to personal responsibility? GOP figures populism gets more votes?
You probably didn't realize or mentally filtered out that there is already a demand by donors for a full detailed analysis of what happen. That will take some time. And when billions talk, there will be answers, if the DEM party want to continue to get those donors. I'm sure there will be other study and analysis. it is after-all a very unusual election and many people are interested in learning from it. While those are going on, it doesn't stop everything else. You seem to think only one thing should be done at a time. That's not what people running this country do, at least I hope not.
Considering what you have to offer to this sub-forum...being a troll doesn't help your cause...try again.
Sure, I would. I didn't vote for Hillary in the primary or the general election. Anytime a government that is an adversary of the United States tries to influence our democracy, I would be in favor speaking out against that nation, and would favor taking diplomatic actions against them including sanctions. I've said before that there is no proof that the Russian intervention even changed the result at all. That isn't as important as the fact that they tried. The results of the election isn't in question and shouldn't matter. Is espionage from foreign nations okay as long as it isn't too successful? So it's been released now exactly how the Russians did the hacking, and that doesn't even approach the propaganda and fake news that Russians were pushing in their attempt. Yet, you cling to some idea that it's all made up? This despite multiple intelligence agencies and the intelligence community as a whole admitting it was the Russians behind it. There is no evidence at all that it was made up by the media or Obama. This makes no sense at all. So Obama and the media made it up, and because Republicans like Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, Marco Rubio and John McCain, are all such allies of Obama that they are on board with the sanctions and many even favor stronger sanctions based on the intel they've received? All of these Republicans love Obama so much that they are taking part in this conspiracy to make up a story about Russian interference in our election? Slow down and think about what you are advocating. IT MAKES NO SENSE AND IS BASED ON NO EVIDENCE AT ALL. Actually it has come out, and they've issued warrants based on evidence for specific hackers. Yes, that's correct. It's not okay for a foreign government to commit acts of espionage against the United States in an effort to change and affect our democracy. It's also true that the DNC was shady and violated their own policies. That is a problem in itself, but doesn't excuse the espionage of Russia. Why are you so eager to defend the Russians? Why is defending them better than sticking by the United states and our democratic elections? You definitely fall into the number 4. on my list before.
Nah. I just spit that hot fire. Just 8 years ago the GOP was the party of personal responsibility and "producers vs takers" and now look at them. Don't confuse me for some card carrying Democrat, I just remember we "deregulated and neutered govt agencies" under Bush Jr with terrible results. That's what people ended up voter for. Some folks just don't like the truth as I've learned there are two types of "truths"...
What was unusual is how out of touch the MSM was from the pulse of the nation. They kept feeding the general public the same nonstop garbage of partisan politics and shown how far the democratic party is from her own base. Every poll every predication every broadcast had a landslide...for Clinton...Democrats ignored the major flaws of the first major female candidate for the office of presidency. Instead they decide "IM with her"...while the other half of the nation was screaming...anybody BUT her. Its why many voted third party and write in this year. Those were missed opportunities...missed votes for Clinton. At the start of 2016, I predicted that this race would be very interesting...White working class males despises the current administration, and Clinton represented a continuation of failed promises and policies...Its the largest voting block in our nation and Clinton failed to target and reach out to them. In the end, what I have come to witness is that the far left are petulant little children. Putin just smacked the biggest one on a national stage by doing exactly opposite of what he thought he would start. America has never looked more weaker and pathetic as it does now...Im just hoping that a Trump administration brings back some of our nation's lost prestige. If he cant do it...or WONT...the nation will respond and vote some who will in 4 years...
I think part of why they got SOOO surprised by the election results is that the far left convinced themselves that they were actually the centrists or the moderates simply because of the existence of the extreme fringe left. As such, the far left felt free to pander to the extreme fringe left and the majority of the country didn't go with them. Right now their entire world perspective was recently shattered by (IMO) a healthy dose of reality, so it's a bit understandable that they'd be petulant and pouty while seemingly stuck in a cycle of the first 4 stages of grief. We've seen plenty of denial, anger, bargaining, and depression. We've even seen combinations of the 4....it's time for them to truly move on to acceptance.
Yes, lets make baseless statements. You didn't like Obama before and you don't like him now. That has everything to with how you frame the picture and jerk Putin off. This whole "image of America" nonsense is some wetdream a lot of stupid conservatives, mostly the racist ones have.
Sadly they will probably get trashed for calling out the republican's wet dream of a KGB thug. McCain, Graham say they will seek 'stronger sanctions' on Russia Jacob Pramuk Thu, Dec 29 2:24 PM PST Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham , two hawks on U.S. policy toward Russia, said they will lead the push in the upcoming Congress for sanctions on Moscow that are stronger than those the Obama administration announced Thursday. "The retaliatory measures announced by the Obama administration today are long overdue. But ultimately, they are a small price for Russia to pay for its brazen attack on American democracy. We intend to lead the effort in the new Congress to impose stronger sanctions on Russia," the senators said in a joint statement Thursday. The Obama administration issued an executive order Thursday authorizing sanctions on individuals and organizations it believes were involved in alleged Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election. The White House sanctioned nine entities and individuals: two Russian intelligence agencies, four officers of its largest intelligence agency, GRU, and three companies that supported GRU's operations. It also expelled 35 Russian diplomats and closed two Russian compounds in New York and Maryland in response to what it said was harassment of American diplomats in Moscow. The Russian Foreign Ministry called Obama's sanctions counterproductive and said they will harm the restoration of bilateral ties, according to Reuters. The measures will test President-elect Donald Trump , who has brushed off the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia interfered in the election, calling it an effort to delegitimize his electoral victory. He has been criticized by both major American parties for appearing too warm to Russian President Vladimir Putin . It remains to be seen whether his administration will reverse the action or other existing sanctions on Russia, or if it will pursue new measures. Trump's transition team did not immediately respond to a request to comment on whether it will uphold the executive action. When he was asked about possible sanctions Wednesday, he said, "I think we ought to get on with our lives." However, some congressional Republicans including McCain and Graham have signaled that they could break with Trump if he chooses not to seek tougher sanctions on Russia. GOP Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky called the actions "a good initial step" and while he did not outright say he sought tougher sanctions, he appeared to leave the door open for them. "As the next Congress reviews Russian actions against networks associated with the U.S. election, we must also work to ensure that any attack against the United States is met with an overwhelming response," McConnell said in a statement. Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan of Wisconsin said the sanctions were "overdue," he did not indicate in a statement if he would seek further action against Russia.
