Wait. We're saying this isn't so grave because she possibly could have continued working with her old employer??? So she's at least partly the author of her own troubles? That's nuts. Regardless of her personal situation. Isn't one of the tenets of the whole discussion that a person shouldn't be indentured to their employer by virtue of healthcare? Batman -- awful stories about your friends. You should be directing your anger at the gutless politicians and leadership, however. The insurance companies, as evil as they might be, are simply playing within the rules to keep their competitive advantage. It's the 'rule makers' who should be publicly flogged.
That's not how the law works. They have to make reasonable accomodations within the confines of the parameters of the job. If she can't perform that job, the company can absolutely let her go (or she could quit). For example, if a pilot goes blind, an airline is not required to make accomodations to keep them as a pilot. And they are certainly not required to create a new position to keep the person employed. However, if the pilot has another disability that does not prevent them from being a pilot, then the airline would have to make reasonable adjustments for that.
She is a Montessori pre-school teacher. And you are an ass. She doesn't sit behind a desk. She chases children around the schoolyard for a living. This isn't nearly as bad as the time you decided to bait me about my dead friend, but it's still pretty bad. How do you sleep at night?
damnit! Rockefeller's Public Option Amendment Fails After debating all morning and well into the afternoon, the Senate Finance Committee voted against an amendment, written by Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) that would have added a public option to the panel's health care reform bill. The final vote was 8-15 with 5 Democrats--Sens. Kent Conrad (D-ND), Blanche Lincoln (D-AR), Tom Carper (D-DE), Bill Nelson (D-FL), and Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT)--voting with all Republicans to kill the proposal. Next up, Chuck Schumer's more modest public option proposal.
It’s only one committee. There are 5 versions; this is just one of them. This is just one step out of about 5 or 6 where the public option can make it to the final bill. But it is disheartening that there are so many spineless democrats
I'm listening to the stream. Spoiler <div><iframe height="339" width="425" src="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/22887506#22887506" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><p style="font-size:11px; font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: #999; margin-top: 5px; background: transparent; text-align: center; width: 425px;">Visit msnbc.com for <a style="text-decoration:none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight:normal !important; height: 13px; color:#5799DB !important;" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com">Breaking News</a>, <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032507" style="text-decoration:none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight:normal !important; height: 13px; color:#5799DB !important;">World News</a>, and <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032072" style="text-decoration:none !important; border-bottom: 1px dotted #999 !important; font-weight:normal !important; height: 13px; color:#5799DB !important;">News about the Economy</a></p></div> Of those that voted against Rockefeller's amendment, I believe Bill Nelson of Florida just said he will vote for Schumer's proposal, though Baucus is whining about everybody making the same arguments as before, so he's obviously not onboard. So that's 9-14. Would need the other three Democrats to flip, or maybe Snowe, for a real shocker. Kent Conrad (Moron - N.D.) just seemed pretty noncommittal. Nuts.
I can’t help but wonder how much money the healthcare and big pharma industries are throwing at these dems.
Kent Conrad: ===================Total=========Ind========PAC Lawyers/Law Firms_____$586,802____$468,766____$118,036 Securities & Investment_$283,825____$173,725____$110,100 Health Professionals____$239,533____$22,033____$217,500 Insurance_____________$233,625____$65,825____$167,800 Lobbyists_____________$197,792____$193,292____$4,500 Baucus ===================Total=========Ind========PAC Securities & Investment_$839,650____$694,150____$145,500 Lawyers/Law Firms_____$684,354____$472,412____$211,942 Insurance_____________$558,075____$259,525____$298,550 Pharmaceuticals/Health_ $507,313____$203,964____$303,349 Health Professionals____$504,641____$120,141____$384,500 Top 5 Industry Contributors 2005-2010 (opensecrets.org) DON'T YOU LOVE CAPITALIST DEMOCRACY!!!!???!!
It's always "follow the money." Always. Why can't we get bipartisan realization of this across the citizenry? It's a rhetorical, and sad, question. The Owens Valley, now dry, is going to be our economy and our healthcare system years from now. Somebody's laughing all the way to the bank, and it's not the townhall screamers. I kind of wish they could at least get themselves some kickback or affordable healthcare for their efforts.
And here is where our "representative" republic fails. Here lies democracy. We buried him under a mountain of money.
Schumer Public Option Amendment Fails in Finance Committee The Senate Finance Committee can't even endorse a modest public option like Chuck Schumer's. Citing his belief that a public option can't pass on the Senate floor "at this time," Finance chairman Max Baucus joined two Democrats and all Republicans in voting down the amendment, which failed 10 to 13. Joining Baucus on the Democrats' side of the dais were Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND) and, by proxy, Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) who wasn't present for the vote. There will be no public option in the Finance Committee's health care bill. ---------- I know several democratic senators who’ll be getting an earful from me this evening!
