The hell with democracy. We don't need no stinking democracy. Why not just eliminate the vote and have it all decided by a vote of dollars like the stock market.
Big Pharma Getting Billions More Than Reported Out Of Senate Finance Bill The introduction of the Senate Finance Committee's health care proposal turns the focus from what the pharmaceutical industry will contribute to reform efforts toward what manufacturers stand to gain. The pharmaceutical industry could see an increase of approximately $115 billion over 10 years in U.S. drug sales as a direct result of the Senate Finance Committee's health reform legislation - at least by one way of slicing up the numbers used in economic analyses underlying the bill. That calculation is based on how the Senate Finance Committee explained the rationale for the specific fees due from each health care business sector that stands to benefit from expanded health coverage.
That's certainly not a bad thing. More people seeing doctors (now that they would have insurance) means more prescriptions. More prescriptions means more money for the pharmaceutical industry. More money for the pharmaceutical industry means more advancement in pharmaceutical research. Oh no?
thanks, senate dems. even with a 60 vote majority yall can't get anything done. i hate how 4 people from montana, arkansas, north dakota and delaware determine how we spent 17% and rising of our budget.
I really hope they are voted out of office. They should be. Their votes on these amendments and their contributions should be displayed side by side. People shouldn't forget.
the 5 Democrats that voted no today Max Bacus Washington D.C. 511 Hart Senate Office Bldg. Washington, D.C. 20510 (202) 224-2651(Office) (202) 224-9412 (Fax) http://baucus.senate.gov/contact/emailForm.cfm?subj=issue Kent Conrad 530 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-2043 https://conrad.senate.gov/contact/webform.cfm Blanche Lincoln 355 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-4843 http://lincoln.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm Tom Carper 513 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-2441 http://carper.senate.gov/contact/ Bill Nelson 716 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-5274 http://billnelson.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm
As is your right as an American. But just know, like all civil rights issues of the past, you (and these 5 Democrats) are on the wrong side of history. America will have universal heallthcare (with most probably some type of public option). It's just a matter of time.
...Don't get the whole freedom analogy. Since when does more options=less freedom? If you're going to argue against health care reform, bring your stats and bring some logic along with the ride. There ARE good empirical arguments against the whole measure. The biggest problem I have is that this whole crapshoot turned into an exercise in ideology and further reflected a phobia about socialism in a world where all states and especially the most prosperous ones have wholeheartedly embraced mixed economies. It's like watching the 50s unwind all over again. Well, my consolation to the American people. It looks like you will be stuck with half-ass changes for quite some time.
hey hey hey! What was that Obama quote about healthcare being declared dead several times before it's passed? we're just getting started
Shovel Face, Honest question: why do you think the insurance companies, et alia, are pouring political money into the political process? Just because they love America as much as you do? When you follow the money, you get a stinky picture often times. Comment? Is your allegiance with industries that are bankrupting the country (and hundreds of thousands of hard-working families) just an unhappy coincidence for you? Does it make you question your take on healthcare? Or would you tell us that all big companies hate "socialism" by their very nature? If that's true, why isn't Intel lobbying against healthcare reform? By the way, the platitudes and pictures of flags are inspiring, but they don't really support your position. If you're calling those of us who support healthcare reform "unAmerican," that's incredibly lame, if not downright offensive, since we love our country every bit as much as you do.
perhaps. Health care reform of some kind is still probably going to happen. But with all the watering down this bill is receiving and all of the opposition/partisan politics...I very much doubt meaningful and significant change in this direction will happen in the next few years.
You don't love freedom from government force as much as I do. To me that's the founding spirit of America, and I absolutely love it. Nobody likes that health care is so expensive and insurance is tied to job, but the idea government takeover makes me sick. And that's what a public option would lead to and that's what liberals really desire. So things may suck but I can celebrate that they dont get worse. "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." -George Washington
You have a fundamental lack of understanding about health care reform and the public option. There is no government takeover involved.
I think this is a fundamental misunderstanding of the entire process. Normally, we don't see the internal workings of bills played out in such a public fashion. Right now, the odds are well over 50/50 that a public plan will be in the final bill, and it's likely to be reasonably good public option. Trying to read into these individual votes misses the forest for the trees. There was never any question that this amendment was going to fail - it has no negative impact on the likelihood of a public option. This was the committee most aligned against it, and it wasn't surprising that it didn't go through there. That doesn't mean it's not going to be in the final bill. It may still be in the final Senate bill; if not there, then it may be in the final overall bill.
No argument. Just this time it stings a bit more (no pun intended). I guess it's because I really do think it's a crime that our country cannot give health coverage to all it's citizens - or rather, that we do, but so insanely inefficiently. It's just sad to see America so blatantly exposed as ignorant and enslaved to the almighty buck. Again, this is no new revelation or anything, it's just ugly to see it so forcefully displayed.
