I don't understand what the debate is really about. Sura is Public Enemy #1 for SOME YOF. I personally don't believe the majority of YOFs are as one-sided and illogical as some rocket fans accuse them of (a case where a few bad eggs can ruin the whole basket). YOF (some)- primary concern is Yao's stats. Rocket fans- primary concern is a championship. Anything that gets in the way of these goals will instill 'vicious' responds from both sides. I just hope the moderators can shut it down if it gets out of hand.
I don't think you can just speculate or make the generalization that Chinese fans dislike Sura. I think it's more of the "Rocket Haters." It defies logic to dog on Sura , especially after last night. I think the poster's name was "Hurst" -- just a Hater in general. I hate all of this YOF or YOH crap. So junior high
Sura is not a true PG but he has played as well as any one can in that position. He shoots 45% FG overall, that translates to 50% 2pt FG and 33% 3pt FG. That is very good. He got 5.7 rebs, 4.7 assists and 2.4 TO. His overall numbers has been as good as Yao's. This is a team game, unless Yao can score 30-40 pts every night, you need many players to do well to go far. I don't see anyone freezing Yao out this year. Sometimes players miss wide open team mates, nobody is perfect. Sometimes Yao just has horrible games, he himself shys away from the ball. I want Yao to improve and become 20-10 player but even when he does, we will still need Sura, Wesley, Barry ... Your example of Steve Nash is a bad one. Nash is very good but we can't have Nash just like we can't have Garnett plays PF and Peja plays shooting guard for us. As a team, u try to get better but you can not have all the best players in the league play for you.
Honestly, I wish we would ban people who are only concerned with a single player or their stats. This is a Rockets fan site, and hopefully everyone is more concerned with the ROCKETS team than one player. But that is an argument for another thread or day. DD
No, no, no, I meant that as a compliment. I'm saying he reminds me of Mario because he's so scrappy. He's hard nosed like Elie. He gives us toughness in a small package like Elie. Dude, I love Sura. The reason I said "poor man's" Mario is because Sura doesn't have The Kiss of Death on his resume. Yet.
Plus Sura is not even close to Elie on defense. Sura hustles, but Elie was a lock down defender in his prime. DD
Exactly -- how does all of this "only fan" start? We're fans of a TEAM not one person, it's not like a boy band. I don't get it, I never watched sports for one person, unless it was women's soccer -- but that's because I was digging some hot chic. I hate to generalize. but . . . . Well, nah -- there has to another explanation.
Wow, I rarely read the GARM anymore for various reasons and I haven't been into chat in quite some time. I had no idea Sura was receiving ANY criticism for his play. He has quickly catapulted himself into one of my top favorite players this season. The guy has intensity and heart, plus the skills and brains to back all that up. I watch him play and am amazed at how often he makes the RIGHT play, if not the spectacular one. He handles the ball a lot, but the difference between how he does it and how Francis/Mobley/Moochie did it is that he is non-stop. He is constantly trying to make something happen, and if it is not there, he moves on. None of these last second shot clock heaves or violations. The guy just plays basketball. I didn't realize until he got on the team and started playing up to his level how much I had missed that over the years.
ohh yahhh, he had a good game, but he is not good PG. even TNT said he should pass more balls. that's his problem. he is selffish. you can not judge a player by one game. Hiis problem still there as long as he SHOULD understand he is a ROLE player, not star!
From watching Sura this year, how do you back up your statment that he's selfish? He's played hurt from day one. He plays hard, a total team player. Back up your statement please. (edit: I'm waiting)
we couldn't AFFORD a star at that position. we can't pay him "star" money and still max out TMac and Yao. there are limits. Sura matched up against a "star" last night though..and held his own.
i'm agreeing with you. i don't see Sura as selfish, either. i think he's been a really big part of the upswing the Rox have enjoyed lately.
That makes no sense, can someone translate? You called him selfish, and you still havn't backed it up. Playing hard is conflicts with playing selfish. What solution do you have? is therea better PG available. You make a strong statement and can't back it up. Yao's one of my favorite players and even he would say that Sura has been good for the Rockets this year.
Oh, I wasn't arguing with you, you're correct in your assessment. The other guy(or girl) just got me hot under the collar.
It doesn't, I think. But I do agree your last one: no other PG available RIGHT NOW. Sura is not the answer for Rox's future
so hot for Sura? I dont want to argue with you, he just a role player. I more concern Tmac/yao, they are the keys
Well whatever, I guess you can't put any evidence on the table. The point is not to make you look bad, but alot of people say things which are unfounded. If you are trying to argue that Sura is not as good as Nash or Kidd, fine. That's true. But his problems are not with effort, selfishness, or playing soft. I lot of guys, including a few Rocket players could learn a thing a two from Sura about effort and competitiveness. I end my tirade, peace.
