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PSP2 (PSP-400)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by emjohn, Apr 22, 2009.

  1. Royals Ego

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    i.. must.. pre.. order..

    quad core CPU
    quad core GPU

    /drool
     
  2. Cowboy_Bebop

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    No way they are going to do that since their biggest market is the PS3. The only way for them to make the PSP2 successful are the games. They need to make games that are fitting and fun to play on any small consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sony Ericsson PSP phone is going to outsell this.
     
  3. Xerobull

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    Is this thread about the PSP phone? No. Has there been a PSP phone announced? No. Your link doesn't have anything concrete.

    If there is a PSP Phone that is compatible with the PSP2 games, then Sony will have something to push. Otherwise....frrrt. 10% of 160,000 apps is 16,000 decent apps by your reckoning. That's a damn good chunk of good games for the iPhone.

    Anyway, the only reason why I saw your post was because it was quoted. You've been on my ignore list for a few months because of your commentary is always negative, angry and bitter. I'd like to think that you hate just me, but it seems like you hate everyone, most of all yourself.

    Do me a favor and just ignore me too so you won't respond to my posts.

    Have a super day. :cool:
     
  4. Cowboy_Bebop

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    God you are an idiot and a hyprocrite. Is this a thread about your iPhone? You'r yapping about why Sony isn't doing something like the iPhone and I gave you a link that Sony Ericsson PSP phone is doing exactly that.
     
  5. ItsMyFault

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    If someone programs a touchscreen, fully-functional autocad program (or some other fancy, hardware-intense business/engineer oriented program) for it, then it stops being just a gaming device. Just saying, there are more possibilities with this device (due to hardware), then with something like the iPhone. In the business/professional world, there are a lot of apps that can only run on your desktop because of the hardware resources they demand. What if all these apps could be ported onto this PSP and you could truly work on the go.
     
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    So this is the most powerful handheld device announced so far?

    Quad-core cpu, PS3 type graphics.

    Damn.
     
  8. calurker

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    The touchpad on the back will be the killer app. I wouldn't be surprised to see other mobile devices try to replicate that. I just wish this thing had a second set of shoulder buttons to fully replicate the PS controller, but maybe the touchpad will do the trick.
     
  9. ItsMyFault

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    Yeah.

    The only thing I can see people complaining about is the price. If the price is in reason, this thing is probably the best portable thing to get. The one other thing to note... this thing is supposed to be released around December.. the Tegra 2 quad chip for smartphones will be announced at MWC and there might be phones with similar specs so the competition for handheld devices will get even stronger.
     
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    Think we can get an emulator to play a maxxed out Morrowind/Oblivion?

    Would Bethesda give it a look for Skyrim/Fallout?
     
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    Please tell me you can play Call of Duty on this new thing. If you can, COD on the go y'all!!!
     
  12. Wakko67

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    If it really matches PS3 graphics that will be impressive.
     
  13. Tom Bombadillo

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    That can't right, can it?


    Isn't it about time for a new console when handhelds are of matching power?
     
  14. TheGM

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    Absolutely crazy specs; 5inch OLED, Quad Core CPU and GPU. Insane. It'll be interesting to see what the price and battery life will be.

    You're not going to be playing the same type of games on a touchscreen smartphone compared to real dedicated gaming device. Sony does however recognize the new casual gaming push with smartphones. That's why they introduced the PlayStation Suite for Android phones. They get access to millions of Android owners to potentially sell classic PSX and PSP games beyond the casual smartphone games they're already playing like Angry Birds, Doodle Jump, NOVA, Need for Speed etc... (Not sure how the PSX games will do considering people could emulate them for free through various emulators on the Android Market, but the PSP games should be interesting). That "PSP Phone" (actually the Xperia Play) is just a demonstration device for the PS Suite. Most Android users of the PS Suite will have to use on-screen virtual PS controls or BT controllers in order to play the PS Suite games. Those more serious about the PS Suite will probably be attracted to the Xperia Play and it's dedicated PS controls.
     
  15. KingLeoric

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    Now, how much?
     
  16. Cowboy_Bebop

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    So what the heck are they planning on doing since this thing is as powerful as the PS3? How does this work if you already have a PS3 and the game(s)? Are they expecting people to buy the same game but made for the PSP2 or they are planning to integrate the games of the PS3 with this?
     
  17. chow_yun_fat

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    Kojima did mention something about being able to play a game on the PS3, save, quit. Then continue the game on the NGP.....

    Something about cross platform gaming, where you could play the game on one system and continue playing it on the other.
     
  18. RC Cola

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    OK, now this is a big deal.

    I didn't care if the games came on some new proprietary format. Not unusual, and it makes a lot of sense.

    But apparently Sony is using a new proprietary format for expandable memory too (i.e., no SD card support...or maybe not even Memory Stick? Completely new format?). That sucks. I assumed it would support a fairly open standard for something like this at least. Having internal storage helps, but far from ideal. Guess they got a bit worried given piracy on PSP.

    I wasn't too concerned about no price announcement this early on (they still seem to be nailing down a lot of things...like even the name...every letter might add $1 maybe ;)). Guess if they thought they could price it competitively with the 3DS, they might want to say it early, though not really a big deal. Still got other events in the next 6 months to make announcements (and price should be one of the last ones I imagine).

    That said, their comments about pricing are maybe a bit concerning (as if the specs weren't concerning enough). I guess "it will be affordable" is better than "it will be expensive, you better get two jobs." But they definitely seem to be pushing the "value" of it all. Which implies it won't be cheap.

    I do agree about the prices for these devices. It is getting a bit crazy.


    No HDMI output AFAIK. In fact, I think they might have dismissed video output altogether. It would certainly be capable (though I imagine it would stick to its native resolution, ala the PSP's video out functionality).

    Maybe it will be added or they'll have some sort of adapter. Though depending on the game, this might not be ideal with some of the new gameplay functionality (unlike the PSP).


    I'm guessing they'll want to expand on the market that the PSP captured...not to mention achieving that with greater profitability (better game sales, less piracy, etc.). But a repeat of the PSP wouldn't be too bad from a business standpoint. 60M+ systems sold. Far from a flop.

    Unless we're talking PSPGo.

    Really? I don't keep up with sales on phone sales that often, but would the Xperia Play really sell that much? Potentially 60M+ if the PSP is anything to go by?

    Of course, the PSP might not be a good indicator at all, especially with no information about pricing, more developer support, release date information, etc. Not to mention increased competition from other mobile devices (including the 3DS).

    Could definitely sell VERY poorly under the right (or...um...wrong) circumstances. And I mean sales that would make the PSP look like the DS or PS2.


    It is pretty crazy to think about how quickly other portable devices might catch up to these specs. NGP will still likely have an advantage for a bit longer since it will be running a "simpler" OS, and developers will be able to code "closer to the metal" than they would for other devices. But probably won't take long for a new portable device to really outclass it.


    Emulate? Probably not.

    Could be ported, but that would be up to the developers. Probably won't get Morrowind or Oblivion. Maybe Skyrim or something similar. But that's up to Bethesda.

    They did have a PSP game I think, but no idea how it turned out. Don't they have a iPhone (or maybe some other platform?) game or something?


    They did show off support for a CoD for NGP, but that was it. Probably just a port of the next game or something.


    Just check out the videos.

    It won't technically match up with PS3 graphics of course. The specs are crazy, but not that crazy. But with a smaller resolution (well...comparable to some PS3 games I guess), smaller screen, etc., the graphics will look pretty similar I think. Maybe comparable to PSP and PS2 visuals. Like in that situation, might even be some cases where NGP looks a bit better, but probably won't quite have the horsepower to really do what the PS3 is doing with its best games.

    But I'd be happy with games that looked like the Uncharted demo they showed.

    Especially if it isn't $599 like the PS3. We can do without that similarity.


    We are around that time, relative to previous generations. ~2012 was a decent prediction for a new console, if not 2011.

    But doesn't seem like anyone is really eager to start a new generation. Pretty much all parties involved seem content with riding out the current consoles for a few more years.

    But who knows?


    Not $599 apparently.
    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/01/27/sony-39-s-yoshida-on-pricing-the-ngp.aspx
    It will be $999. Or at least that's what GameStop is (or was?) taking for preorders.

    Kojima apparently loves the idea of playing a game on the PS3, and then continuing that experience on the NGP. Sounds like his next project will involve this. Maybe other developers will do so as well. Think it would be interesting to bundle both together (though maybe only having a download voucher for the NGP).

    Sony did say that they don't see this happening that much (i.e., PS3/360 ports to NGP). But I find it hard to believe that publishers would ignore that. An exclusive NGP game would be very expensive, and there just wouldn't be as big of a market for it. Of course, they could go with a smaller budget but try to come up with some innovative new gameplay ideas...but like that would really happen.

    Remains to be seen I guess. Unlike the PSP, the NGP will have a lot more to differentiate it from consoles and other devices from a gameplay perspective. But I'm sure being a "portable PS3" will be how a lot of people will look at it. And for some, that's just not good enough, although I like the idea myself.




    Couple more comments given some of the news that came out today.

    -EA and THQ not listed when it came to developer support. Guessing they'll jump on-board, but that does seem a bit of a concern. Some decent support otherwise. Just wished they'd list Atlus, not Index Holdings or whatever.

    -Aiming for a battery life comparable to the original PSP. Guess I'm fine with that. Guess OLED and no UMD drive must make a difference, because otherwise I don't see how they could come close. But no removable battery. Boo!

    -Probably two models, one with only WiFi and another with 3G.

    -I still love the idea of PS Suite. Cool stuff, and can't wait to hear more about it. GDC is coming up pretty soon, might hear more then. Sounds like Jack Tretton confirmed it for PS3, but then took that back (too soon?).

    -Boo! Sony apparently had more footage from 3rd party developers, but didn't show it. A Sidhe (Shatter, Gripshift, and other awesomeness) developer mentioned having to jump through hoops to submit it, and they didn't even show it.

    -NGP just a codename. Trying to come up with a creative new name (so not PSP2?). Unless NGP takes off.

    -NGP is backwards compatible with PSP. But only via digital downloads. No UMD drive of course, so that's out (unless they have some adapter or something). Wish I could go back and decide to go digital for some of my PSP games. Guess I'll have to do that from now on. PSP games will likely see some slight improvements.
     

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