PS3 Firmware 1.80 Announced (PS1, PS2 and DVD Upscaling, DNLA streaming, more)

I don't really think this thread was meant to be a pissing contest between the two systems, so I'll just comment on the Playstaion.
It has a couple features (RGB Full Range and Super-White) better suited for HDTVs which take advantage of the huge contrast ratios. which I think makes it a little more valuable than the 30 dollar dvd players.

Either way, it's not like upscaling DVDs makes the ps3 a good product. It is just a part of a wide array of features that make the system a good value.

PSN does not offer anywhere near as much as XBL at this time. Sony said months ago that would could expect to be able to download movies and tv shows at some point but never gave a date. I don't really know how you can compare the two services when PSN is only now 6 months old.

 

One of the DLNA demos used the PS3 as a server via YellowDog. I assume that it is just an issue of software then to extend that functionality to the PS3 operating system. The CELL is powerful enough to encode and stream (if that ever becomes an option.) I have to believe this is in Sony's long term strategy to market the system as this multi-faceted entertainment device.

The Eye is a key part of the SingStar "experience". They want people to use it to record their karoke performance so they can upload it to a Youtube like community so other Playstation users can see how wild/crazy/talented they are. It's a really neat idea especially since can watch the actual music video for the song on the screen while they are recording their version. You could become on online star assuming you make a real ass out of yourself.

Sorry, Yes that is what I was referring to. Last I read, they were making Edge available to 3rd parties because of the supposed difficulty companies have been having with the system. They demoed a Killzone PS3 video at a conference a couple months ago as an example of what Edge can accomplish. I bet you can expect more on the subject when the game is exhibited at E3. (which we tried to get passes to as members of the press...Didn't work.)

I must have heard wrong. Yea, you are right then. That wouldn't be a good example. Haze, the title I was thinking of when i wrote "pain", might be though. While it might not be exclusive, the PS3 will at least be the lead platform for the game and the developers will supposedly take more advantage of the PS3 hardware than a game that was being released across platforms would. There has been no official word that Haze will go to the 360 though. They have just said that there is no deal for exclusivity with the PS3 at this time. I think they (along with Square-Enix) are negotiating with sony.

People take a lot for initial impressions. I think it will set the tone from what people can expect from the Playstation in a genre that is usually associated with the PC/xbox.

That is true. PSN has really slowed down but remember XBL is a mammoth of a structure that has had years to develop. The only thing Sony is consistent about is game trailers and videos which rarely seems that appealing.
Here is the breakdown:
16 Game Demos
13 PS3 Downloadable Games
10 PSOne Classics for PS3/PSP
30 Game Videos/trailers
28 HD Movie Trailers
The sad part is that most of the game demos and movie trailers game in the first 3 months of PSN's launch. Hopefully Sony will pick up the pace as PSN develops.

 

i was responding to this:

if you have a 360, there's no reason (and upscaling is not a good reason) to get a ps3. If you really want blu-ray then get a ps3, so far no big titles are out and it's still $599.

by the way, the $30 samsung upscale dvd player has contrast settings on the dvd player. tigerdirect baby!

 

I think that RC, myself and a couple others touched on a wide array of reasons other than blu-ray. As far as software, there are big titles that have been highly rated: Resistance, Motorstorm, Virtura Fighter 5 and Oblivion. Others include SplinterCell, VirtuaTennis, Tekken 5, Ridgeracer, NFS Carbon, Calling all Cars (short but fun), etc. A lot of these are not exclusive but I don't think it matters. The question is if there are good titles available for the PS3 that complement the non-gaming features.

Sorry to say but you are coming off as a Hear no Evil, See No Evil, Speak no Evil fanboy.

I don't doubt that there are display settings. What I said was that there are valuable contrast features that are available for the PS3 that are not for most low-end dvd up-scaling players.

 

It was actually slower before and is picking up now, I thought. I bought my PS3 in March, so I don't know what it was like before then. It seemed to me that there was nothing new in April and then in May there was something new every week.

If you have a PS3 have you seen the "Uncharted: Drakes Fortune" video yet? It looked ok on the Gamers day footage but seeing it in HD on my tv from the PSN it looks STUNNING. I think there is finally a game I am looking more forward to than GTA IV (and that's quite a bit, coming from me).

 

Its price performance. $599, no games, no hdmi cable included. plus $60 for Ridge Racer or Virtua Fighter 5. That's not going to make a Xbox360 owner (Dakota) want to buy another game system.

Its not fanboying, its just REAL OPINIONS by a Clutchfans hero.

If Sony cared about the gamer, then we'd have some MGS, Gran Turismo, God of War, Final Fantasy etc out at launch. Also, if they want some network games besides FPS, they should have some STREETFIGHTER online.

I own a PS1 and PS2. I dont think I'm the only one dissappointed in the PS3.

 

Uh, its a free update that eliminates the need for an entirely different piece of hardware. Pretty nice.

 

XBOX360's early release probably forced Sony's hand in releasing the PS3 without GT, MGS, etc... You want Street Fighter online (PSN is free BTW)? The PSN will have a REMAKE of SF2 with completely redrawn sprites and an array of new features. Suck on that .

 

yeah,
that's coming out on xbox360 too.
PSN is free, that's a bad idea for Sony. They need revenue to sustain such servers. At least I know I'm paying $50/year (thats not alot of money) for a good network.

guess who has SF Annivesary and SF HF online now with LOTS of people playing?

HADOKEN!

 

Ok, PS3 was the Rockets this season. So much promise and talent, but the delivery was bad. many unutilized processors(VSPAN and BONZI Wells).

PS3 owners are hoping that Rick Adelmen will "SPEED UP" the development.

 

Dude, we get it, you don't like the PS3...Go create another thread about how you think it sucks...

I had an xbox, bought a ps3 because the 360 didn't have BC and I didn't like the add-on for the HD-DVD...Plus you got more with the PS3 for the same $$$....However, having said that, I'm going on my 3rd one tomorrow...If I'm not mistaken, the 360 had similar initial problems so I take it for what it is, new technology...

 

are you saying you dont like Rick Adelmen?

i never said it sucks. i just didn't recommend it to Dadakota, then the haters went spastic. so you bought the game system for bluray. this is exactly what is wrong with the ps3. you should be buying it for the games. that's why the WII is doing so well. So if you guys want to hack my opinion like Manu Ginoboli, do so.

 

Yeah, this is why I was hoping to get a PS3 and was excited about this firmware update - latest technology gaming console, bluray, and can be a media server/extender. That's 3 pieces of "junk" it does in one box. But right now I don't any bluray movies and don't plan on buying any anytime soon and its lukewarm at best on the other 2 fronts.

Oh well, neither one of them is the perfect solution, but I guess I'll wait and see if they update this firmware anytime soon and if it works any better in terms of the media server part.

 

I'm not sure anyone ever went spastic.

PSN is growing faster than XBL did on its inception. That is a direct result of free online multiplayer. It was a really smart move by Sony to catch up in the online department with microsoft.

That's funny because most of the people who own 360s don't even had a HDMI jack. Sorry. I didn't mean to get sucked into the 360 v. PS3 bull****.

First person shooter? Not sure what you mean because there are a lot of PS3 games that support online multiplayer. We've talked about this before, MKII is on the PSN and it has multiplayer.

People question your opinion because you back it up with inaccuracies or in this more recent quote: nonsense. You have no idea how the industry works. I'll keep it simple. Unless you see SCEA as a developer, Sony does not have direct control over developing a title.

You are right. There are a lot of people who have been disappointed in the system so far. I think most of the discussion on this thread has been on what is coming in the next few months or a little more down the road. It is ignorant
to assume that you can make an assessment of the system when it has only been out for 6 months.

 

How do you know that? lets just say I DO KNOW HOW IT WORKS. I know how it works VERY WELL. Like I told you, I was just giving my recommendations to Dadakota. I actually know people who do buy the PS3, strickly because it is a good performing Bluray player and that other Bluray players costs much more.

you're right, down the road 6 months from now, when the price war starts, who knows how much better the PS3 would be given that it releases some nice titles.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16291
Report: Price Cuts Ahoy!

Microsoft may be the first to start a price war by the end of the summer. Nollenberger Capital Partners analyst Todd Greenwald tells GameDaily BIZ that he thinks MS will slash the 360's price (all SKUs) by $50. PS3, PS2 and PSP price cuts are likely to follow. More within...

Price cuts – it's the topic everyone seems to be speculating about, especially with regards to the $600 PS3. Nollenberger Capital Partners analyst Todd Greenwald has thrown his two cents in, predicting not only a price cut on PS3 this year, but also Xbox 360, PS2, and PSP. Nintendo hardware was not mentioned, but considering the rate at which the DS and Wii are both selling Mario and crew certainly don't need to slash the price on those platforms.

Greenwald expects that Microsoft will actually make the first move by the end of the summer. He believes that a $50 price cut on the 360 is on the way (across all SKUs), making the Xbox 360 Core SKU the exact same price as the Wii and the Pro SKU only $100 more than the Wii – potentially a more compelling value. "I don't think it would impact profitability much, as the component costs must have come down quite a bit by now (been in production for 18 months)," Greenwald commented to GameDaily BIZ. "Plus, they will make a lot of money off of Halo 3, obviously, and more and more software royalties as the installed base keeps growing."

Feeling the pressure from Microsoft's price drop during the summer and the continued success of the Wii, Sony is expected to "give in" around October and lower the PS3's price by $100. Greenwald also notes that this is perfect timing right in advance of the highly anticipated Grand Theft Auto IV, which launches October 16. Greenwald said that leading publisher Electronic Arts stands to gain the most from a PS3 price drop this fall.

He also believes that another price cut on the PS2, bringing it down to that magic $99 price tag, is likely to happen this holiday season. The oft rumored PSP hardware redesign should also accompany a price cut, Greenwald said. Recently, video game retailer GameStop noted that sales of the PSP had doubled at its stores since Sony lowered the price on the portable.

Ultimately, the health of the industry requires price drops for the 360 and PS3, Greenwald explained: "With the PS3 retailing for $599, and the Xbox 360 for $399, consoles are more expensive than in past cycles. While the early-adopter gamers haven't flinched at purchasing the consoles, the industry will need mainstream users to buy the systems to get past the 5-10 million unit mark. If mainstream users are unwilling to pay $599 for a PS3, next-generation software sales could suffer."

Like many, Greenwald is also astounded by Nintendo's recent success. "We find it incredible that Nintendo has been so successful despite the fact that it is still all but impossible for the average person to walk into a store and buy a Wii," he remarked. "How much stronger will Wii software sales be once the console is readily available? We think there is still a lot of upside for publishers on the Wii as the supply/demand imbalance improves."



by James Brightman

 

as an PS3 owner I say

YAY!

 

Call me cheap, but I don't think the PS3's library is good reason to dump an initial 5-600 on it when you've already dumped around that much for a 360 and its games.

 

That's fair. I was not touting the library as the reason to buy. That comment was in response of Tinman's assertion that their were no "big" titles out on the PS3.