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PRYUEN,Please,someone said yao will recovery within a month if using chinese medcine

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ROCKU, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. blackbird

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    I thought you are a chinese doc, but you are a western doc. It is even more ridiculous. How can you make such a blanket conclusion: Chinese medicine didn't work for Yao? Just because you are a western doc? Its a shame that you are so short sighted. None guarantee Chinese medicine will work for Yao, but it will not hurt to try.

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  2. rocketswinitall

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    hmm... not a bad idea cneptune :D
     
  3. dkei0722

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    Just one question: has the "traditional thearpy" on this case already been proven to be 100% effective?
    Then why are there still people like Bill Walton?
     
  4. Dkny_112

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    WE are talking about a broken bone here not a heart, kidney, liver etc.

    Bones are the easiest thing to fix. All you have to do, is reduce it (ie: straighten it and put it back in place), and hold it there (cast, nail, etc) and the let the bone regrow..

    If you read the other forum or an earlier post, some poster mentioned his brother went to some old school TCM doctor and the doctor realigned his bone right there on the spot. If thats the case, its the same principle being applied here.

    Do you guys realize that Yao can keep playing now? I mean the pain isn't what is limiting him at this point. Hes played the last 12 games with this fracture. The problem is when you keep pressure on your foot, you are not healing the fracture properly and letting the bone grow in a crooked manner. That causes decreased joint space and osteoarthritis (rubbing of the joint) which would then cause CHRONIC ankle pain which would F**K him up long term.
     
  5. donny

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    I am so disappointed that Some America fans are so discourteously.They need to learn how to repect other people or other foreign fans.They are so arrogance.It's hurt me!!!
     
  6. Tree-Mac

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    Well this tread is so long I didn't realize there actually IS a doctor in the house! Let me ask you this, how much worse can the Chinese doctors do? Accupuncture looks pretty painless. However, surgery looks like scary stuff. I mean damn, you're cutting up into someone's flesh. If the surgery goes wrong, there goes his career down the drain. But if an accupuncture goes wrong...how bad can some needles do? I don't know. Just my guesses, I'm no doc.

    I think given how athletes have to be in top form and they cannot afford any risks, why not try the one with lesser risk first before getting under the knife?
     
  7. Dkny_112

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    2 reasons:

    1. The Portland Trailblazer team docs destroyed his career. Thats why he requested to be traded from them 2 years after winning a championship. All they did was pump him full of cortisone to take away the pain and pushed him out there to play. If Yao kept playing, the identical thing could happen to him. Hence, the surgery NOW.

    2. Orthopedic surgery was in its infancy. Techniques have advanced greatly in the last 30 years as you can imagine. Plus by the time they did the surgery, the damage was already done.

    You dig?
     
  8. Tree-Mac

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    Hey dkny nevermind what I said. You already made your case. I just missed your posts.
     
  9. Dkny_112

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    Acupunture has been shown (though not conclusively) in some clinical trials to reduce inflammation in a general area. I've had acupuncture myself and i do concur that it has benefits in pain management in the short term. Acupunture in the hands of a professional is fairly harmless but if you mess up and put it in a poor area, you can cause yourself some serious problems such as nerve damage. This will not really be useful in Yaos case as the point isn't really to reduce the inflammation or pain, its that he just needs his bone straightened.
     
  10. poprocks

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    How shortsighted. I have found that doctors who think of their fields and themselves as infallible are often not. Doctors only know as much as they have been taught. They are not Gods. 100 years from now, many of the techniques today will be archaic and considered irrelvant. Every physician I have ever known talks about healing the body according to what they know. You ask an internist one thing to cure something and and you tell an endocrinologist the exact same thing and they come up with a completely different remedy. Or worse, because it's in a medical manual somewhere, everybody gets the standardized meds to cure a specific type of disease. Never mind that it could cause irreparable liver damage or kidney damage. But since everybody else in the AMA is doing it, then by golly it must be the only way.

    Since these are potential treatments developed outside the US, why it must be crap. In fact since only made in the USA is the only true and best medicine, you must immediately discount anything ever developed or made outside the USA. Ok, maybe we'll give the French a little leeway but if it comes from Russia or China it must be crap.
     
  11. dkei0722

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    K, I will take that. But as the translation says, what yao has is some kind of a "periosteum inflammation." I have no idea what the heck that is exactly, but at least it is not as simple as a random fracture. So probably it won't be the most effective way to apply the traditional thearapy either!
    Why are you so against TCM anyway?
     
  12. poprocks

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    This post completely backs up my last post.
     
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    Thank you, Dkny, for bringing some sanity to this thread. Some of these people wouldn't know an "open mind" if they walked right into one!
     
  14. Munir Ming

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    sorry to say this, but the translation sucks. It's done by machine.
    Here is what it basically says.

    Yao's injury is special. A surgery might not be the best option. The traditional Chinese medicine might have a shot. It sounds that some Chinese doctors have fixed such injuries in the past. The guy claims it will take only one month for Yao to recover if treated by some Chinese specialists. He recommends Yao should not take the surgery and give the Chinese doctors a chance. He also asks Chinese basketball officials to bring one or two specialists to Houston and have a look at Yao.

    My opinion:
    1. Don't count on this. Chinese medicine may have special curing effetcs for some of the special injuries, but we have to be realistic. Modern medicine is about science. not majic.

    2. Yao should ask some other US doctors to have a second look first. He should also consult some Chinese doctors and then make a decision based on science not good intention.

    3. The worst scenario might be the guy is trying to get some celebrity by claiming a heartbreaking injury on Yao, the most popular star in China, can be fixed in a rather short time.
     
  15. Riz

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    Thanks for the better translation
     
  16. ShiniKashi

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    has pryuen even posted at all in this thread?
     
  17. poprocks

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    The only sanity here is the belief that Western ways are the best at everything. That's why the American way of life was forced on all the other countries of the world. Mom, Baseball and Democracy. Lets cram it down your throats.
     
  18. donny

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    YES,Don't discount what you don't understand.THANK YOU!!!

    Some people write "yen",please stop you stupid hands,it's "yuan".
    if you know nothing about Chinese tradition,who give you right to defame it.
    Shut up you stupid mouth,arrogant man!!!!!
     
  19. LScolaDominates

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    Nobody ever said that. Try again. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Panda

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    How is surgery in essence safer than conservative treatment like TCM?

    We are talking about cutting open human flesh and bones here. There is risks for infection, and how do you know that the doctors will carry out the process to perfection? I mean, you talk about playing on a fractured foot putting pressure on the foot, making it grow crooked, then how is it guarenteed that screws in Yao's foot are perfectly installed to apply pressure making it grow 100% natural?
     

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