To show you how completely out of the loop I am....I thought hip-hop was rap music for white people? What's IS hip-hop? And how is it different from Rap? (maybe we can get this thread tossed into the Hangout) -- what's in your hip-hop-i-pod??
hip-hop is the culture, rap is just the music. rap is the music of hip-hop culture rather than hip-hop being the culture of rap music, i would say personally.
Thanks PG So are rap music and hip-hop music the same thing??? (i'm more old than nerd...in case you're wondering)
Well if you see a guy of any color walking down the street with a ballcap on sideways and price tag still hanging off of it, along with a pair of tennis shoes more expensive then the rest of his outfit combined, baggy shorts with the waist so big they can barely be kept on his hips and as a result are exposing his underwear, and wearing a shirt two sizes to big for him thats hip-hop....lol oh and I forgot the diamond ear rings in his ears with more karats then bugs bunny and about enough gold hanging around his kneck to make Mr. T envious..... I pitty da fool.....
some fans would say hip hop is more of a purer form (whatever that means) and rap is more commercial. but I would say that's a matter of opinion. let me say this also, just because I think race is involved in the issue I don't think its racism. And that's where a lot of athletes go bad. Like Jermaine O'Neal last year saying the age limit was racism. I think that's wrong, but there is a racial aspect to these issues because in a league that's probably already >85% black, these issues manage to affect an even greater percentage of black players vs. the rest of the players they affect.
Jim Brown says this has nothing to do with racism. That's good enough for me. Teams have a reasonable right to tell their employees to dress as professionals.
Long time ago, I'd figured out that pro sports associations were borderline slavery. But hey, I'd be their slave if they wanted me.
Amen. I think the dress code should definitely include hair style. Nash's hair is clearly unprofessional. (No smilie, because I am serious.)
These guys already do dress appropriately, they wear uniforms on the court and practice in gear covered in team logos. Why do people care what they wear when they are flying out of an airport at midnight and checking into a hotel at 4 am? I find it ironic that Barkley is saying the players need to do it because they are role models when he himself is famous for saying he wasn't a role model. Maybe he knows something I don't know, but I'm going to assume that poor black kids from the ghetto aren't idiots who would wear baggy pants and doo rags and what not to an interview for a job that requires you to wear a suit. Of course they won't even have the chance to get those interviews when they are going to crappy schools with almost no hope of college.
Dress code for the job is fine/normal/acceptable. Players should be required to dress appropriately when on the court, bench, practice, interviews, etc. This is the same with any job: office, meeting with clients, presentations, and what not. However, restricting players to what they're allowed to wear getting on an off the plane, going to and from the hotel, is blatantly unreasonable. It's just like any job. You dress well for work. But my senior VP doesn't give a rats ass if I still have my blazer on when I'm checking into my hotel or flying between sites. All these people who say, "players SHOULD follow this dress code b/c they make so much money" or "b/c everyone else has to," are a bunch of player haters (no pun intended) with massive chips on their shoulders. You chose your own path, deal with it. Others don't need to suffer for your regrets. It may or may not be the case that the NBA NEEDS to improve its image. If they desire to, the dress code is a very superficial fix. A player who beats his wife isn't any worse than another player who beats his wife in a suit. Solve the problem, don't fluff it.
Yes, the part where you have to be decked out while getting out of your car and walking to the arena, or while getting off a plane at 2 am.
good for a laugh. got the link from espn page 2 - dont get mad, get plaid http://www.remembertheaba.com/OnlyintheABAMaterial/FreewheelingFashion1.html
