But they don't, so how is that relevant? I'm sure there is some guy making minimum wage that would put up with some of the stuff you wouldn't put up with at your job if he could get your salary. It seems like you are saying "They get paid a lot, so just shut-up and do what your boss says". That actually sounds reasonable to you?
This how bull crap that argument is. I worked for a bank that had a branch in the BMC building here in Houston as a teller back in 98. this was the height of the tech boom. back then, those guys had a gym on site (i'm sure they still do) could come to work in anything they wanted (within reason, including shorts) came to work when they wanted because they were in high demand, and back then tech companies starting giving all these incentives including no dress code. oh yeah, and these were professional computer scientist wearing shorts to work.
Ok. Lets say most of the country dresses like AI and Stephen Jackson, and a smaller percentage of them dress like the new dress code. Maybe most of the people in your office are white, so if one day your boss orders yall to dress like AI and Stephen Jackson, because they want you guys to look like the majority black America, would you complain? It's all about perception, Stern thinks this will help, it might take away a small piece of the argument people have against the NBA, but they'll still have the baggy shorts, corn rows, afros, and tattoos to complain about.
Yes, I hate all those dirty eggplants in the NBA. Somebody needs to send those people back to Africa and bring in Jimmy Chitwood.
I'd love to see some overseas player start talking about this dress code and how it is an attack on their culture. On a serious note, here in Australia I know of a number of sporting teams that wear suits into and leaving the stadium. Its no big deal. It shows a commitment to being preofessional....thats all.
Why not? Exactly. These guys were in high demand--meaning, if they don't like it, they can go to another company of their choice. Now, tell that to the players: "If you don't like it, you can always go to another company of your choice." You see, if you want to argue that because these players are highly talented and in high demand so they can challenge anything they don't like, then yeah, go find another job if they are so hot. The only weapon the players have against the owners demand is a strike. Hmm, let's see. . . a strike over a dress code. . . yeah, right.
Obviously, I'm not talking about you or anyone else in here, you're a contributing member to a Houston Rocket's FAN site, you probably have no big problems with the NBA, except for Steve Francis I believe. HAHA. I'm talking about those in the general public and see that the NBA is, for the most part, a black man's league and don't like the NBA based on that fact. Don't tell me that you have never encountered someone who never watches the NBA, but has already made up his mind that the NBA is a league full of thugs. That's who this dress code is supposed to reach out to, but the bigger problem to those people is who is wearing that clothes, not the clothes. That might help a little, the players do look better and sometimes people act better when they're dressed better, but it won't make that much of a difference. Just look at what the NFL and MLB get away with, the NBA's perception is far worse than the teflon image of those two leagues.
It doesn't sound reasonable to me because I don't think I should put up with crap just cuz I make more money. I pay you a lot so I can treat you like crap and you better not complain. I think not....
Not to mention, if it wasn't for these "whiny babies" there wouldn't even be a need for a league-wide dress code because there wouldn't be a league to begin with. Some of you should go watch sailing. They all look pretty.
I'd really like to know how many people refuse to watch the NBA because its a league "full of thugs". If you like basketball, you'll watch it, period. White people love Allen Iverson. Why? Cause he's an amazing ball player. They don't care about the bling, tattoos, and all that other crap. Stern needs to stop sweating bullets over this so-called image problem the NBA has and start focusing on just making the actual game better, because in the end that's the thing that matters most.
You'd be suprised how many people think like that... I wouldn't want those kinds of people to be a fan of the NBA anyway.
This is not an NBA issue. This is about the majority (white middle-class America) being more acceptable of other people's way of life. If you don't criticize me about my gold chain, I am not going to criticize you about your cowboy hat. It's all part of who people are. We shouldn't change who people are. Real fans care about a player's ability on the court and their character. The other stuff (braids, throwbacks, chains) is an excuse for non-fans to not watch the NBA. Wearing a suit does not change a person's personality. In fact somebody might argue that wearing a suit hides somenone's personality, because they are not expressing their way of style, but rather a Wall Street style (BLAND)
and because of the clear violations of anti-trust laws that our professional sports associations are able to get away with...they should also limit their dictatorial desires. stern's a f'ing genius whos made the NBA what it is today. but he is also an *******. remember what he did to us in the playoffs last year?!?!? why would you all defend that guy!
Your way of life is playing for the NBA. That's the whole point. it's your choice. This is not racial imo. They want people of all color to wear a certain attire while on business. I hate wearing suits. I Freakin hate it. I like shorts and t0shirts with cut off sleeves. And I have more tattoos than you, I guarantee it. But I don't think it is to much not to ask me to wear a jacket for work where I make a lot of money. You want to have street culture? Then quit playing for the NBA and go back to the streets. It's that simple. BTW, if you think a gold chain makes you anything you are weak.
This is what I was talking about. Do you realize how insensitive that is? You just made a wrong generalization that NBA players come from the streets. In addition, nobody belongs in the streets.
I didn't realize NBA players these day were so sensitive. Should I get T-mac a tissue so he can dry his tears in his $100,000 dollar car? I said that they want street culture, not that they come from the streets. Are you going to tell me that Allen Iverson and his hip-hop image isn't street image? The worst thing that could happen to a lot of these guys is being labeled sell-outs. Look, if you are going to be a rebel, don't cry about acceptance. And if your are going to join a business and make a lot of money, don't cry about not being able to be counter-culture. The choice is yours. Make it and live with it.
I didn't say players are sensitive. I said your remark was insensitive/inconsiderate/discriminatory. Tracy McGrady lived in some street I suppose, just like everybody else. Hip Hop culture is not street culture, it's about celebrating life. As far as his car, he deserves every inch of it. I suppose if you were as successful as him, you could buy a $100,000. But you can't be successful if you don't know what "insensitive" means Do I need to ask the obvious? What the hell is "counter-culture"? Does that mean acepting somebody's else's culture as yours? Nobody should ever be asked to do that if they don't wish to or if they can't do it. That's like forcing you to be the starting Small Forward for the Rockets. And who is a rebel? I am not aware of any rebels and I certainly am not aware of anybody crying for acceptance. You use the word "cry" quite a bit. I have seen players exercise their constitutional right of free speech, but I haven't noticed anybody cry. If you do cry however, that would make you "sensitive". Open the Webster dictionary and look up under S
"This is about the majority (white middle-class America) being more acceptable of other people's way of life." sound familiar? I don't have to accept anyone's way of life. I can think spending loads of money on cars and necklaces is pretty much sinful. I can think a grown man CRYING about a dress code at a business he chooses to work for is ridiculous, and it is. Who am I supposed to be sensitive to? Allen Iverson's hip-hop lyrics don't sound very sensitive to me. If his hip-hop is a celebration of life, he doesn't look very happy. This isn't a race thing. Every race must comply. BTW, it sounds like you are the one who needs a dictionary. Check it out: coun·ter·cul·ture ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kountr-klchr) n. A culture, especially of young people, with values or lifestyles in opposition to those of the established culture. counter·cultur·al adj. counter·cultur·ist n. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=counterculture But don't get me wrong. I like street culture. I like punk culture. I know there is a positive side. I get it. That's not the issue. You just have to make a choice. You can't beg for acceptance. I wouldn't want it anyway.
That's called "you've made it". If that's sinful, I want to be a sinner. That Donald Trump is such a sinner. He's all about exotic cars and gold palaces. Everybody accepts your way of life. Why wouldn't you accept somebody else's? That's inhumane, arrogant, socially irresponsible and in your words "sinful". I feel bad for you. You probably grew up in a farm riding horses and chasing sheep and never had the chance to meet people of different cultures. So because Allen Iverson's artistic expression offended you, you are going to offend his roots and his people by saying he should go back to the streets? Allen Iverson is not happy? Who are you, Dr. Phil? Oh, by the way, what are his lyrics Mr. Miyagi?
