Prop 12

Mad Max has been covering the topic well.

There are plenty of lying, scheming, no good plaintiffs out there - many of them. They work claims for injuries, enjoy the time off from work, and run up ungodly bills at chiropractors and doctors offices, many of whom are in on the scam.

Very common for a plaintiff's lawyer to have a favorite chiro and a favorite doctor to send his clients to for work. Usually soft tissue where you can't really tell whether they hurt or not.

Also, there is the guy who wants to fix those knees that he's injured a half dozen times over the years and fabricates a reason, then tries to make it his retirement case. Union workers are the worst. They KNOW how to dummy up a claim.


There are very few parties who are totally clean, and that applies to plaintiffs and defendants alike. Believe me, it's like church and sinners.


In my view, the cleanest practice is the one I now have - but it took many years to build that practice. I represent businesses suing other businesses: no nickel shooters - all big companies fighting over big bucks. No rookies, no virgins, just hard knuckles bar fights between guys who have been in many such encounters. No widows, no orphans, no guy in a wheelchair.

 

preach on preacher!! this is about 75% of my practice right now, and it's fantastic!

 

Listen to these lawyers shamelessly argue against Prop 12 out of pure self-interest and protecting 'their own'. I have not met a lawyer yet that is for Prop 12. That should tell you something.

Save our healthcare system. Put an end to runaway juries banishing our doctors to other states. Provide healthcare for your children. Vote YES on Prop 12.

 

Why not Freeze the Insurance Rates?

How do you penalize LEGITIMATELY VAMPIRIC COMPANIES
Say . . . . .like in that movie THE RAINMAKER

If you know 1 in 1000 people will lose an arm because of you product
and 1 in a 1000 of those will actually get a competent lawyer to bring suit

A company may say . . . HEY We making Millions. . . a few arms
here and there ain't bad because they only cost us X a arm
while we making 10X in the mean time

Rocket River

 

TJ, save it. We both just told you we don't do med-mal work. We both work with commercial litigation...I primarily work for banks, so you should love me. Just ask glynch!

I'm not protecting anyonoe...I'm concerned with the legislative branch jacking with the fundamental concept of an independent judiciary. I believe in the jury system, even though I readily admit it's not perfect.

Like you...I'm concerned with healthcare. I'm concerned with skyrocketing costs. Having said that, I think this proposition is written way too broadly.

 

I hope it's abundantly clear to everyone that the broad corporate implications are the only real reason that Jorsie_Trader is interested in this proposition.

 

Mad Max mentioned about the high percentage of cases settled and how trials mean someone is being unreasonable. Very true.

I have had more trials than most because I sign on to try other lawyers cases, late in the game. My last two trials were in Austin and Dallas, both district court, both jury verdicts for the plaintiffs, my clients. I had never seen either file 120 days before the trials. I was brought in specifically to try these cases by lawyers I know. Have gun will travel.


It has been 5 years since I tried one of MY cases, because I know how to position a case to get it settled. There is an art form to developing a case, and many lawyers do it wrong. They frontend load there case with brash talk, confrontation, and unnecessary letters and paperwork. They make enemies of their opposition, then create a mess where the parties get so far apart they never can get it settled. Then it gets up to 60 days before trial and reality hits everyone and they get desperate to settle.

Lawyers know which lawyers will throw down and try a case, and which ones will cave and settle. I love getting a guy on the other side who never tries a case. He's gonna settle at the pre-trial, or when we get ready to voir dire the jury panel.


I like fighting over large chunks of money, because it's easier to do a good job on a case where there is a lot of cash involved. I just settled a case that took 14 months from the time my party was added until we settled. $6 million claim by a multi-billion dollar plaintiff against my client, which does business in the hundreds of millions per year. The drilling industry.

Reading all this makes me soooooo happy I don't have anything to do with medmal or personal injury on either side. yuck.

 

trader, do you even HAVE a job?


you must be ashamed of what you do, because you never mention it.

 

Once again we have a 5-on-1 'debate', with me being the 1, in which I reduce you all to frantic scrambling to cover yourself, cursing and name-calling in order to 'get back at me', begging me to answer your questions, and wild demagoguery in an effort to obscure your flawed arguments.

OWNED

Honestly though, our culture has become far too litigious. Lawyers are loving it! You have situations where an unemployed person is sitting at home watching Rikki Lake, when a Jim Adler "The Texas Hammer" commercial comes on. The commercial plants the seed in their mind that they could strike it rich by winning the litigation lottery. You've got people threatening to sue doctors before they even provide services to them! The facts remain -- doctors are paying exhorbitant insurance rates, as the insurers work to recoup losses from jackpot-sized jury awards. Doctors coming out of medical school will not choose to go to a state where they can not make a decent living. All Texans will suffer from the lawyers' greed and the 'victims' outrageous demands. Doctors are an essential component of the State of Texas. We must work to ensure their survival. Vote YES on Prop 12 tomorrow.

 

the most encouraging words ever from a TJ post!

 

TJ, you're a guy with no real knowledge of the things you try to talk about, and it really shows. You need to stop repeating things others tell you as if they are the gospel.

You've repeatedly claimed that lottery jackpots in med mal justify this action proposed. You ignore that fact that the increases in premium were driven not by losses of doctors but by insurance company losses in the market place.

It is clear to me that you have no real world knowledge of any of these matters, and that you merely parrot what you are sent by others. You're probably on the mailing list of every right wing nut cause out there, this being no exception.


I could use a guy like you - running errands, making copies, stuff that doesn't require much thinking.

 

The right wing bobble head strikes again.

Yes, our culture has become too litigious, but the real point is that THIS amendment is not the cure that is needed.

BTW, exorbitant does not have an h in it.

 

I am a business attorney with over 20 years experience. I have never represented a plaintiff in a med-mal or personal injury case. My clients are small businesses, including physicians. I am not in favor of Prop 12. That should tell YOU something.

FF, congrats on your one month anniversary on the board, during which time you have posted 1072 times (so far) at a clip of 34.39 posts per day . I assume you are in between trials.

 

I was on vacation the first two weeks, when I racked up over 50 a day. Since then, maybe half that a day. I'm about to be out of the country on business for a week or so, and my average will drop to a decent number in the 20s.

I'm old. I don't have to work all the time anymore. I'm making up for all those years I had no life except trying cases as a young lawyer. When I was the age of most of these guys, I worked 8 am to 8 pm at least every day of the week, and usually at least one day every weekend. Now I get to coast a little. I settled a big one that was eating my time just before I started posting here, so that created a window. There is nothing I love better than putting a case to bed forever, and the calm which follows.

I'm about to disappear for a week on business, so I probably won't see yall for a week or so after tonight. When I'm in the middle of real work, I won't be here much.

 

Considering his extensive knowledge of what commercials come on during Ricki Lake and Jerry Springer, I wonder if he is even employed at all these days.

As usual, T_J absolutely refuses to attempt to argue/debate on anything.

Anyone that still takes this guy seriously should get their head examined.

btw...great reads here guys..I appreciate all the info so I can make an informed decision on Prop 12.
Keep up the good work.

 

For the good of all Texans, the liberals attempts to cripple the healthcare industry and bankrupt doctors have been short-circuited by the Texas voters. In a situation analogous to that of this BBS, the liberals failed to provide voters with a convincing argument to vote against Prop 12, and the Texas voters saw past the trial lawyers' self-interest to pass an amendment that is good for all. The slim margin of victory only serves to demonstrate the efficiency of the Republicans' strategy on investing the minimal amount of effort in order to secure victory. This is a wonderful time for all consumers of healthcare. The liberals are left scratching their heads and wondering how they were outsmarted yet again.

Proposition 12 passes.

CASE CLOSED