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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Win, Mar 2, 2005.

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  1. weakfromtoday

    weakfromtoday Member
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    Don't get me wrong. "The Widow" isn't a bad song by any means. Its just that The Mars Volta albums have a lot of ups and downs on them as far as tone and energy and "The Widow" is kind of on one of those low points. It fits well on the album, but its just odd to hear it on the radio without it being followed by the much more up tempo "L'Via L' Viaquez". Its one of those things like trying to enjoy one track of Dark Side of the Moon on the radio. Its like, play it all or don't play it.
     
  2. MoBalls

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    Wow good bands Raven. Here is another..
    Porcupine Tree www.porcupinetree.com
    I listen to these guys all of the time....
     
  3. Rockets2K

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    Spocks Beard is pretty good...Ive just started getting into them....

    as for prog-metal that isnt quite as hard as Dream Theater....Ive just stumbled upon one that might fit for you....Arwen......a Spanish progmetal outfit that is just now getting some recognition overseas..


    also....progressive metal that I enjoy...Fates Warning, Dream Theater, Iron Maiden (yes..they are progressive metal...listening to 7th Son of a 7th Son right now...)

    any other bands along these lines I havent heard of yet guys?

    suggest some stuff I might like...
     
  4. MoBalls

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    Marrilion
    Riverside (from Poland)
     
  5. No Worries

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    There used to be some amazing prog music boards called Perpetual Motion (which appear to have gone away). I found the following rehosted PM board which might yield some answers ...

    http://tpom.com/pmboard/index.php

    This site also has a 2004 best of ...

    http://www.krose.org/pma2004/

    some named bands from which are

    Ayreon
    Pain of Salvation
    Jag Panzer
    Nightwish
    Iced Earth
    Angra
    Pain of Salvation
    Evergrey
    Fates Warning
     
  6. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    I am so stoked! "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" by Genesis and "Close to the Edge" by Yes have come to my house today. Really have been digging "Fragile" of late and currently listening to "Selling England by the Pound". It still blows my mind how Genesis went from being a prog-rock monster to a light pop schlock band.:(

    Anyway, was hoping some King Crimson fans could help me out here:

    Just ordered a used copy of "Red" and looking to get "Discipline" in the future. Those 2 albums would join "In the Court of the Crimson King" and "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" as my 4 KC albums. Are there any other KC albums worth getting? Why is it that most of their stuff is out of print? It is like the only ones that are still in print are "In the Court of the Crimson King" and "Discipline".
     
  7. DanHiggsBeard

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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned Houston's own legendary Red Krayola.
     
  8. Rockets2K

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    Manny,

    Starless and Bible Black
    In the Wake of Poseidon
    and Beat is similar to Discipline if you dig that version of KC

    the only ones of the three listed on Amazon is Starless, but you might have luck finding them used somewhere...

    if you dont...and I dont feel bad to offer this since they are out of print.....I know a way to get ahold of them digitally....
     
  9. lost_elephant

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    porcupine tree is simply awesome.

    the guy from porcupine tree also produced Opeth's recent record "Damnation"

    and its as prog sounding as anything ive heard.
     
  10. Win

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    Manny, I cant wait to hear how you feel about the Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, and for that matter Close to the Edge. They are my favorite discs from each band.

    Not sure if it can be found, but there is an excelent King Crimson live albulm, USA. I'm not usualy a fan of live releases, but this one is just unbelievable. Bill Bruford is at his very finest and the sound quality is top notch.
     
  11. mc mark

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    You can thank Phil Collins.

    "Discipline!" Ah! My fav KC album. VERY different from "Court." Adrian Belew is a monster on that record. And it's a new lineup for Fripp with KC. Sort of the "new wave" King Crimson.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.
     
  12. Rashmon

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    I love this stuff.

    Focus and Nektar were great progrock bands. I also loved Manfred Mann's Earth Band and The Nice. Both great bands.

    Manfred Mann's "The Roaring Silence" is a classic.

    Mahavishnu Orchestra was awesome although not quite progrock.

    Also worth checking out, Neu!

    Here's a great site: http://www.progarchives.com/
     
  13. SpaceCity

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    Discipline is great. This was a whole new phase for King Crimson. Discipline came out in '81 and was the first of three albums that were put out by this lineup. (Robert Fripp, Adrian Belew, Tony Levin and Bill Bruford) All of these guys aremasters of their craft. Ask Jeff, I'm sure he can spend a day talking about all of these guys and the various bands and projects that they have been involved in. All of them have been considered pioneers in music.

    Personally, this is my favorite KC lineup. Probably because this was the KC that I 'discovered' back in '87.

    Anyway, if you like Discipline you should get the other 2:
    Beat (82)
    Three of a Perfect Pair (84)
     
  14. Deckard

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    Man, I was a huge Yes fan back in the early '70's. I don't know how many times I had Fragile and Close to the Edge cranked up, dancing around my pad playing air guitar. I should have put Steve Howe on my list of great guitarists. I missed their Fragile tour, because I was in Europe that summer in '71, but I caught both shows in '72 and Spring of '73 at Hofheinz, when they toured for Close to the Edge. Man, they were blistering hot.

    I can relate a bit to JuanValdez saying he was a fan of a genre he didn't know existed. I know I talked about progressive rock back then, when the term came to be used, but I was more into just going to see every concert I could go to, and every group I heard on progressive radio (should have given me a clue... progressive!) that I liked. I didn't always think in terms of genres, except for blues and jazz. Yes had a real jazz/fusion air to their sound.

    Things were so wide open back then. You went to see Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, which had an incredible jazz component, but rocked like a son of a b****. I was lucky enough to see Frank and the Orchestra, because that's really what it was, at the Music Hall in '69, with Ian and Ruth Underwood playing various instruments, and Jean Luc-Ponty playing electric violin, along with about a dozen other people, during the Hot Rats tour. (or maybe that was Frank's excuse for a tour. I've heard that he lost money on several of them because the group was so large, and he was the last one at the end of a long list of expenses) His guitar work was incredible, as always, and no matter who he had playing with him, when he launched into an extended break you were just blown away. Progressive? Jazz? Fusion? Rock? It was a gumbo of all that mixed together, with Zappa's black humor ever present.
     
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  15. MR. MEOWGI

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    Haha. I forgot all about the video for "cry" untill a month ago or so when I saw it on VH1 Classics. Man did that bring back memories. Haven't heard that album though. I want to.

    I used to listen to Hawkwind from time to time...

    Did any of Monster Magnet's early stuff count as progrock?
     
  16. Rashmon

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    Glad to see another Zappa fan Deckard. Zappa was my hero.

    Todd Rundgren's Utopia album (1974) is a classic example of prog rock. Todd could rock.
     
  17. Deckard

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    I'm more of a fan of Todd's earlier stuff, like Runt, Something/Anything, and A Wizard, A True Star, but I saw Utopia when they had, if I remember it right, a huge golden pyramid that Todd played on, and from, and around, and dangled, and all sorts of crazy ****. Rundgren was, and is, progressive... if anything deserves the name. I saw him twice with the Nazz, in his early days. Once in a club off of Richmond, and at the Texas International Music Festival (aka, the Dallas Pop Festival). I have a bunch of his records.

    We Got To Get You A Woman always reminds me of Manny. ;)
     
  18. BMoney

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    The Abacab and Genesis albums are two of their best albums and Collins played major roles in those.

    God, it feels weird to be defending Phil Collins...lol.
     
  19. Sishir Chang

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    I'm not a fan of many of those bands but am aware of the genre. Listening to y'all talk about them is more evidence that music these days isn't as original.

    Will people be talking about Guster and Jon Mayer in the same way?
     
  20. Manny Ramirez

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    R2K,

    I may have to take you up on your offer.

    Win,

    Will do as I will be listening to those 2 albums today at work.

    SpaceCity,

    Thanks for the post. It was very informative. Currently listening to KC's 1st album, "In the Court of the Crimson King".

    Deckard,

    Haha.:mad: :D

    MoBalls,

    Email me through the board, please.
     

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