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Progressive Iranian Soccer Decision

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by HayesStreet, May 8, 2006.

  1. CreepyFloyd

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    i'd rather not divulge personal info

    those articles are not written by yahoo so i dont see your point

    maybe you just wanna attack me personally some more
     
  2. HayesStreet

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    What personal attacks, lol?

    Share your credentials with us so we can evaluate your opinion vs others.

    Of course you are the only one who knows anything about Iran, lol. READ THE QUOTES FROM THE IRANIAN OFFICAL. They deny your editorializing.

    Aren't you a peach, lol. Sorry buddy, but nobody is just going to take a leap of faith in you. If you want to deny something someone else has posted from an outside source, you're going to have to substantiate it with another source yourself. Otherwise your allegations have no credibility.

    No need. You make claims you can't back up.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Elected officials?

    How many women voted?

    DD
     
  4. CreepyFloyd

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    exactly...people think just because a law is on the books it gets enforced

    the incident above was played up by the media as a 'men's only' event at tehran's azadi stadium to welcome the national team back from wc 98 in france, but there were just as many women as men

    plus, i've seen plenty of iranian women at soccer matches for as long as i can remember
     
  5. CreepyFloyd

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    can you elaborate a little more so i can answer our question?
     
  6. CreepyFloyd

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    personal attacks: supreme environmental engineer (go back and read the thread)

    i think i've demonstrated my knowledge about iran and i will not divulge personal info...for all i know hayes you could be working for the nsa

    i'm sure the iranian official wasnt speaking in english, thus, there is a translation issue with the article
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Are all women allowed to vote? Are they allowed to hold any post (Not limited etc) in the government?

    DD
     
  8. CreepyFloyd

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    women have always been allowed to vote in post-revolutionary iran and participate highly in electoral campaings and the electoral process in general

    women have held high ranking positions in all iranian ministries, they are also members of parliament, they make-up a majority in iranian universities, head civil society organizations, head political parties, and for the past 8 years iran's vice pres. was also a female (masoumeh ebtekar)

    all iranian elections have had high degrees of contestation and participation (participation has never dipped below 50% of those eligible to vote and is usually much higher)
     
  9. DaDakota

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    These women in Iran do not agree with your views


    DD
     
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  10. HayesStreet

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    That was a compliment. I assumed whatever you do it was a 'supreme' something or another.

    That a red herring. Even if you were so concerned about divulging information, you could cite other sources that back up your claims. You're lazy and your opinions are contradicted by cited sources - that's a losing proposition for you.

    Paranoia perfectly compliments your persona. If I worked for the NSA I'd already know who you are from your web usage, doofus.

    Very funny. First that's unsubstantiated. Second, its why I cited Al Jazeera - lol.
     
  11. CreepyFloyd

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    i dont see how this article disproves anything that i've said

    iran has problems just like any other country, but a few people's opinions dont change the facts

    the hijab issue is a good one....every time there's a protest against it by women....there's an even bigger protest for it by women
     
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    That's why there should be freedom. Those who don't want to wear them won't have to. The population of the larger protests who do want to wear them, would still be free too.
     
  14. CreepyFloyd

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    again, i wont respond to the name-calling

    i dont give out opinions, i only deal with the facts...if you want more info: either go visit iran or see wilfrie buchta who rules iran

    and the translation issue isnt unsubstantiated...iranian officials with the in general and the spokesman in the article always speak in persian

    the noteable exception being iran's ambassador to the un, javad zariff
     
  15. CreepyFloyd

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    the hijabs are falling off the women's heads as we speak

    if the majority of the public wants it, then they should have it
     
  16. CreepyFloyd

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    looks like the protest was unauthorized and the protestors didnt have the proper permits to protest....sorry iran is a country of rules and laws unlike the pahlavi era, if you wanna protest you gotta follow 'em

    even in the usa if you dont have the proper permits to protest, the protest is dispersed sometimes violently

    nice try though
     
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    I am pretty sure you want to say 'complements'.

    OK, I think everyone needs to calm down. You guys can all learn from my friendly exchanges with SamFisher, for instance.
     
  18. HayesStreet

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    Sorry buddy - won't do your work for you. If you want to substantiate your claims, then do so. Otherwise you're just pissing in the wind.

    It IS unsubstantiated unless you can show the Aljezeera author either didn't understand the official or got a bad translation. You can't just assert that what they're reporting is false - you can but no reasonable person would give weight to such a claim. The second half of your sentence doesn't make any sense so if you want to rephrase it...
     
  19. HayesStreet

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    Yeah, what he said. :)
     
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    That may be majority rule, but it isn't necessarily freedom. Freedom goes beyond that.

    The majority of the public in the U.S. wanted segregation, but luckily freedom won out over what the majority wanted.

    I don't believe that just because the majority want something they should get it.
     

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