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Problems in our country that need to be dealt with?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by OddsOn, Sep 29, 2005.

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  1. rhester

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    Wnes- great scriptures

    Do all these things and I won't call you a liberal- I'll call you a disciple of Jesus Christ.
    God bless you for this post.
     
    #121 rhester, Sep 30, 2005
  2. rhadamanthus

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    I damn near snorted coffee out of my nose. Thanks. :)
     
    #122 rhadamanthus, Sep 30, 2005
  3. MadMax

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    i'm 31. been out of college a while
     
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  4. wnes

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    I can't take the credit. I should have included the link. They are taken straight from http://www.jesusisaliberal.org/
     
    #124 wnes, Sep 30, 2005
  5. mc mark

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    But they're probably really heavy...
     
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  6. No Worries

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    Jesus hang out exclusively with 12 men and shunned women. Thus, connecting the dots, Jesus hates fags and is thus was a far right conservative wing nut.
    [​IMG]
     
    #126 No Worries, Sep 30, 2005
  7. reggietodd

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    Speaking of Jesus, I watched "he got game" last night. Good bball movie.
     
    #127 reggietodd, Sep 30, 2005
  8. Bullard4Life

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    "Let me tell you something son, you get that hatred out your heart, or you'll end up just another *****, like your father."

    -Jake Shuttlesworth

    Overall, an up and down movie, but definitely has some great moments. Any basketball fan should definitely watch it at some time...
     
    #128 Bullard4Life, Sep 30, 2005
  9. Mulder

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    Will they get to make smores?!
    :D
     
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  10. rhester

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    I was only commenting on the scriptures not the slant.
     
    #130 rhester, Sep 30, 2005
  11. Mulder

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    People don't choose to be homosexual. They can choose not to pursue a gay/lesbian lifestyle but people do not choose to be gay or straight.
     
    #131 Mulder, Sep 30, 2005
  12. MR. MEOWGI

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    Well OddsOn chose to be straight, but it was a tough decision.
     
    #132 MR. MEOWGI, Sep 30, 2005
  13. droxford

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    so how do you people feel about influence and homosexuality?

    By that, I mean, do you feel that people can be influenced toward being gay? If a woman has had bad life experiences with men, can her preferences changes?
     
    #133 droxford, Sep 30, 2005
  14. OddsOn

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    Well you should change your translation into misguided interpretation. I could list a number sources and reasons to back my side but didn't really intend this thread to be about gay anything so I felt it would be wise to drop the subject and get the thread back on track. If you choose to believe different and feel the need to try and attack me for it go ahead and have your fun.

    The question above had absolutely nothing to do with being gay. I was referring to the posters who feel the need to have government social programs like heathcare, wellfare, social security, etc. Taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor is pure socialism / communism and thats NOT what this country is about at all.
     
    #134 OddsOn, Sep 30, 2005
  15. OddsOn

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    LOL.....yup straight and conservative.....ooooh quite taboo by some peoples standards.

    So I guess this ponders another question......

    What would your definition of liberal and conservative be?

    From what I am seeing from the posts within this thread I would guess that there would be quite a diverse opinion on that.
     
    #135 OddsOn, Sep 30, 2005
  16. rimbaud

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    Also please keep in mind that Winston Churchill did not say that.

    Max - you have liberalified just in the few years you have been on this board.

    I find that I become more and more inadequate with age.
     
    #136 rimbaud, Sep 30, 2005
  17. wouldabeen23

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    *gag* Neither is leaving the poor to their lot and making sure the rich increase their wealth.

    BTW, when you reach age 65 and your company has cancelled retiree health programs 20 years previous, I hope you have fun finding a medical plan to cover you after your propsed changes--doing away with Medicare, and Social Security.
     
    #137 wouldabeen23, Sep 30, 2005
  18. OddsOn

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    I would have respectfully disagree. If you are truly born to be gay why are there even different sexes. It was mentioned earlier that there are publications touting homosexuality in animals, I didn't comment at the time but I could also list publications that are available that state that homosexuality is spawned from experiences, trauma, rape, molestation, treatment/resentment by the opposite sex or acceptance by the same sex, exposure to homosexuality at a young age that influence them, etc.

    And how do you explain the people who are Bi-sexual? LOL

    I am not a homophobe as someone stated earlier. I don't hate gays, don't wish them harm....hell I used to be friends with a pair of lesbians who were straight earlier in their lives and CHOSE to be lesbians because they both had traumatic experiences with the men in their lives.

    There are not any guarantees in life. If it weren't for modern medical advancements half the population would be dead by 30. If you can't afford to pay for advanced medical treatment then why should you get it? Why should you expect the government to pay for it or the rest of the population?

    Its funny to me how over my short 34 years of life I have seen the view of people in the USA go from the "land of opportunity" to the "land of entitlement"....I call BS! Nobody ever said life was fair or balanced....lol
    Some people are privilaged, some are not. The beauty of this country is that we ALL have the opportunity to create wealth, unlike living in a social or communistic system where that opportunity is traded in for security.

    I have had to bust my ass for everything I have in life. No silver spoon here. My mom and dad couldn't offer me much in the monetary sense growing up but they taught me to work hard for what I want. It doesn't necessarily take a college degree to get ahead either, I don't have one. Live within your means. Don't go into debt. Save your money. Invest as best as you can. Get a job, get two jobs. Its not rocket science. But don't expect somebody else to take care of you if you fail to plan for lifes happenings.

    I know that sounds a little harsh but it doesn't change the fact that it is true. And before I get flamed.....I have had my fair share of lifes challenges to deal with. Not going to go into my personal details in the BBS but there is no hypocracy here trust me. I really feel for those people who suffer but charity should be a choice not a government mandate.
     
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  19. wouldabeen23

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    But, despite our ideological differences, we can all agree that hot, lispstick lesbians are beneficial to society and to mankind.
     
    #139 wouldabeen23, Sep 30, 2005
  20. Sishir Chang

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    I've heard a theory that says that to a certain extent all humans are bi-sexual. I think it goes down to that practically all humans like sex and will seek to get it in many ways. The fact that even the straightest of the straight will still do things like masturbate, use birth control or have sex when not ovulating shows that we don't have sex for purely procreation reasons.

    Whether people are born with a preference for sex with one gender or another is an interesting anthropological question but one that I think is tangential to the argument about whether homosexuals should be granted the same rights as others. For instance I have a preference for short athletic women. I don't know if that has to do with a deep seated trauma involving a tall flabby gal when I was a little kid or whether I'm biologically predisposed to seak out short athletic women but that's irrelevent to whether I'm allowed to marry a short athletic woman.

    I've had the opposite experience. One of my ex-GF had thought she was a lesbian for awhile but then realized she wasn't. While I would like to think it was my great lovin that did it she just realized that even though she had had very bad experiences with men that didn't mean that she was sexually attracted to women. She found it easier to be with women socially but realized after dating a woman she didn't find them sexually attractive. I think the idea that some trauma can make someone homosexual might be true in some cases it can't be generalized to most homosexuals.

    So poor people should just be left to die if they can't afford medical treatment? Don't forget that even routine treatments like dialysis costs a lot.

    That's good for you that you've had challenges in your life that you've overcome. Let me ask you if a major disaster hit your city and you lost everything including your place of work would you ask government for help or would you just try to make do?
     
    #140 Sishir Chang, Sep 30, 2005
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