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Problems against LA, with some video

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RV6, Mar 12, 2009.

  1. Xsatyr

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    I agree, if you look at some other threads you will see I have been suggesting running plays through our guards. That swing the ball around the weak side to repost Yao is too predictable. If you keep the defenders guessing then feeding Yao the ball will not be as hard as long as your patient. Clearly force feeding is not going to work.
     
  2. wekko368

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    Sorry, but you yourself say Brooks "had the option to wait for Yao". He chose not to wait and threw it anyway. You also say Brooks' pass was "low and away" from Pau when it was clearly not b/c Pau DID get a hand on it. And dont forget he telegraphed it.

    Yao does have problems sealing his man, but in this case, it was just a terrible pass.
     
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    The Lakers actually got 17-18 more shot attempts. The Rockets started fouling at the end which gave the Lakers 14 extra FTs , and it gave the Rockets 7 more shot attempts.
     
  4. wekko368

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    Rafer, Battier, McGrady, Brent Barry, and from what I've seen, Lowry.

    Even Francis could throw an entry pass when he chose to pass.
     
  5. Xsatyr

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    It is RA's fault, not the players. Although it was stupid pass, you can't completely blame Yao or the passers. We run the same plays down the stretch trying to force feed Yao, it does not work. We can post and repost Yao early in the game bc we also run different plays so it is not as predictable. I don't know why the team feels the need to force feed Yao.
     
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    I didn't see Adelman on the court throwing that pass...
     
  7. Xsatyr

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    Rafer struggled passing the ball to Yao down the stretch and Battier is only good at it from the wing with a shorter player on him, hardly making him great. Tmac and Lowry are the only ones I have seen who can find different ways to get Yao the ball.
     
  8. wekko368

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    Actually, thats incorrect. Battier is very good at the entry pass, and he generally wont try to force anything.

    And of course Rafer was good at the entry pass. That and ball-handling were the only things he was good at.
     
  9. BaiHua

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    hey buddy, do you know ppl can have a knowledge of your IQ by reading your words? Just hard to believe you sounded like that. dumb
     
  10. wekko368

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    What are you talking about?
     
  11. RV6

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    I explained to you why Pau got a hand on it in my reply, and it wasn't because it was a bad pass. The pass was on the side opposite Pau. It was low where Pau couldnt just put a hand up and get it without moving. He only got it because he was already halfway in front of Yao, so all he had to do was step around his foot, give him a quick bump, and he was around him and able to get the ball. That doesn't happen if Pau is directly behind Yao instead of next to him.

    Also, yes Brooks could have waited, but the key is Yao was asking for the ball, he had his hand up, it puts Brooks in a tough position because Yao's basically saying "pass it now c'mon", and if the play calls for the entry pass and there's no alternate play then brooks has no choice to but try to get it in there as if Yao is asking for it. If brooks sees he's really not ready and doesnt pass it, Yao's going to get frustrated, pissed, maybe even completely blame Brooks for it, when Yao was half the problem.
     
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    and that's where Adellman comes in, he needs to give them an option to swing the ball or do something else if they dont think Yao's got position. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, i guess we'll never really know, but you have to take it into consideration adelman's role in this.
     
  13. Xsatyr

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    You are correct when you say Battier did not try to force anything but that is what made him good. When he made the pass it was good but he can hardly make it. He was limited in his ability to give Yao the ball which is not useful down the stretch. Rafer faultered as well down the stretch when the defense would focus on Yao especially fronting. Like I said TMac and Lowry have been the only two players capable of finding Yao, not just in post entry past. AB does pretty good on his bounce passes to Yao until the final minutes come, he faulters like everyone else bc of defensive pressure. I suggest you pay more attention down the stretch rather than remembering passes that happen earlier in the game without the defensive pressure. I am by no means trying to sound rude buy you seem to have selective memory.
     
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    Also the main reason why they faulter bc everyone knows they are trying to give Yao the ball down the stretch. RA needs to change his gameplan to make it easier on everyone bc force feeding is not working.
     
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    It was a bad pass.

    Because of the angle of the pass, it wasn't "away" from Pau. If it were, it would've gone out of bounds.

    Wrong. If Brooks doesnt think Yao has position, he shouldn't pass it. Since there was at least 15 seconds on the shot clock, there was time to wait. Brooks is still finding himself as a player, but if he doesnt play with common sense, he wont see much playing time.

    Since when has Yao EVER taken the attitude of completely blaming other players?
     
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    The original post references this particular pass. Thats why I'm discussing it....its not selective memory.
     
  17. Xsatyr

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    The pass was away from Gasol but he was already going around Yao. It was bad pass though bc AB should know that Gasol can easily get around Yao on a long bounce pas like that.
     
  18. Xsatyr

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    I am talking about in general, I could careless about the horrible entry past by AB.
     
  19. NYRangers

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    I suggested a bowling ball (during practices) but to each his own.
     
  20. Xsatyr

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    All joking aside I suggest a tennis ball bc it is much harder to catch than a basketball.
     

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