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Problem solved: Start Faried at 4 and Tucker at 3

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by elmotsangtt, Feb 24, 2019.

  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    LMAO. A simple plan. Lets do it!
     
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    Agreed Gordon off the bench is essential. The guy gives us a huge spark when the starters go to the bench and allows whatever pg is on the floor to become more of a facilitator...
     
  3. Elephant810

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    Yeah it was awesome and refreshing to watch yesterdays game. Im convinced that other than the Warriors, no team can beat us 4 out of 7 times...it doesn’t matter what seed we have.
     
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  4. RedRedemption

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    Faried is not a shooter, despite his great performance tonight.

    With that being said he's the best rebounder I've ever seen, and Ego starting is kinda redundant.
     
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    I'm happy to admit I was wrong about him being able to play 4. It's a pleasant surprise that he can actually function as a 4 since he can hit the three ball occasionally. I did not know Faried could hit a three point shot which is why I didn't think it would work.
     
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    Makes a lot of sense, but what worries me is that with EG coming off the bench earlier in the season we didn't see much production from him. If we make this adjustment here late in the season I hope things will be different. But he has played much better this season as a starter.
     
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    PJ Tucker has always been a 3. some folks saw his performance at the 4 against the Warriors last year and were like; "problem solved". I actually remember Bima and Clutch talking about this on a podcast last year (speculating where Melo would play because Tucker is the 4). I always saw Tucker as someone tough and versatile enough to play the 4 in a pinch (like he had to in last year's playoffs), but his natural position is really the 3-spot, and that's where i hope he plays most of his minutes going forward.
     
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    Scary thing is faried walks in July.
     
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    Not that I don't have in Morey, but I'm totally prepared to have all these guys who have helped this year go unsigned. Lack of continuity is a detriment to team development. It takes time to gel all new players adjusted.
     
  11. elmotsang

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    Hope MDA reads this thread
     
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    Plus it gives our second unit a better scorer and peremiter defender. Golden States is playing a short bench we must make them work Gordon to the bench will do that
     
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    Honestly, this has been the right thing to do for 2 months.

    I know Faried is not the best defender, but he hustles, can rebound, and has a decent shot. Tucker gets moved to a position more suited to his size, and Gordon toughens up our 2nd unit on offense.

    Starting w/ 3 guards has gotten under my skin for a while, but wtvr.
     
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    you have to make a choice with this. While this does on paper give the rockets a better rebounding chance, doing this sacrifices matchup problems for the rockets on one end and creates spacing issues on the other. its basically a crapshoot on what's going to be beneficial for the entire team.
     
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    I really like a big lineup against the warriors and I agree with this to a certain extent. The issue is faried can’t guard Durant on switches. But no one can guard him really. The big lineup would clog the driving lanes preventing dribble penetration from the Hampton 5 lineup. It would give us rebounding and toughness. I like the lineup and we played this lineup in our last win in the regular season against them. The other issue is who to play at 3? House would be the better option for his dynamic offense but rox are limited without Gordon starting putting a lot of pressure to score on the guards. The other option is starting faried at the 5 Tucker at 4. I still like Gordon off the bench giving that second unit an extra pop. Something needs to change and I believe you don’t try to run with the Hampton 5 but try to slow them down and clog them up grinding then out with solid D rebounding and timely 3s.
     
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    I feel like even if we signed some great rebounder it wouldn't even matter. We need to change our team's culture to understand the importance of rebounding. It's not just missing shots, I believe that's our biggest flaw. No one puts in the effort to box out for a damn defensive board. Whoever is on the floor for the warriors, they're boxing out 3 or 4 of our players at a time and still get the board. Faried and capela are average, I think tucker is our best rebounder.
     
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    Faried is definitely no 3 point shooter

    However, Faried is a better 3 point shooting option than Shumpert that's for sure. That statement is not a joke, Faried shooting form and shot trajectory looks better and I have much more faith that Faried will make the three opposed to Shumpert.
     
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    This is mostly true/ It's part of Dantoni's scheme tbh. We re not a board crashing team. He doesn't want our players crashing the boards, that slows us up from getting back on defense. If we aren't by the ball when it comes off the rim then our guys (outside of the center) are told to turn their back and run up court.

    So instead of our guys boxing out and doing the little things they go into the habit of just running back. Our rebounding is majority reliant on our center, I don't like it but thats the way MDA likes it.
     
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    One of the Advantages is we can get the matchup on the pick n roll we wont while putting a ton of pressure on their back end defense. They cant guard clint if they cant body him. If James and Faried run the pick n roll Clint can cut from the baseline. The Warriors will try to not allow Clint to cut from the baseline but they will have to give up a layup by James , a dunk by Clint or a baseline 3 by Tuck. This of course puts the pressure on Cp3 and James to make plays. When the second lineup starts James House Faried Gordon maybe Nene for a small stretch with the option of going to CP3 Gordon Austin Tuck Clint. We must put an emphasis on Pick N Roll with Either James or the Roll Guy diving to the basket and a cutter from One Corner while the other Corner stays home. Shump doesn't need to play over Green.
     
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    Best way to make going big work is to hunt Curry hard over and over again from the tip, force him to switch out onto James and be in foul trouble 2 minutes in. He'll reach, can't help himself.
     

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