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Pro Bowl List (aka steelers snubbed)

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by BigBenito, Dec 17, 2008.

  1. BigBenito

    BigBenito Member

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    AFC

    Offense


    QB Peyton Manning, Indianapolis

    RB Thomas Jones, New York

    FB Le'Ron McClain, Baltimore

    WR Andre Johnson, Houston

    WR Brandon Marshall, Denver

    TE Tony Gonzalez, Kansas City

    T Joe Thomas, Cleveland

    T Jason Peters, Buffalo

    G Kris Dielman, San Diego

    G Alan Faneca, New York

    C Kevin Mawae, Tennessee

    Defense

    DE Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis

    DE Mario Williams, Houston

    DT Albert Haynesworth, Tennessee

    DT Kris Jenkins, New York

    OLB James Harrison, Pittsburgh

    OLB Joey Porter, Miami

    ILB Ray Lewis, Baltimore

    CB Nnamdi Asomugha, Raiders

    CB Cortland Finnegan, Tennessee

    FS Ed Reed, Baltimore

    SS Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh

    Specialists

    P Shane Lechler, Raiders

    K Stephen Gostkowski, New England

    KR Leon Washington, New York

    ST Brendon Ayanbadejo, Baltimore

    Reserves

    Offense: QB Jay Cutler, Denver; QB Brett Favre, New York; RB Ronnie Brown, Miami; RB Chris Johnson, Tennessee; WR Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis; WR Wes Welker, New England; T Michael Roos, Tennessee; G Brian Waters, Kansas City; C Nick Mangold, New York; TE Antonio Gates, San Diego

    Defense: DT Shaun Rogers, Cleveland; DE Robert Mathis, Indianapolis; OLB Terrell Suggs, Baltimore; ILB James Farrior, Pittsburgh; CB Darrelle Revis, New York; SS Chris Hope, Tennessee





    NFC

    Offense

    QB Kurt Warner, Arizona

    RB Adrian Peterson, Minnesota

    FB Mike Sellers, Washington

    WR Anquan Boldin, Arizona

    WR Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona

    TE Jason Witten, Dallas

    T Jordan Gross, Carolina

    T Walter Jones, Seattle

    G Steve Hutchinson, Minnesota

    G Chris Snee, New York

    C Andre Gurode, Dallas

    Defense

    DE Julius Peppers, Carolina

    DE Justin Tuck, New York

    DT Jay Ratliff, Dallas

    DT Kevin Williams, Minnesota

    OLB Lance Briggs, Chicago

    OLB DeMarcus Ware, Dallas

    ILB Patrick Willis, 49ers

    CB Antoine Winfield, Minnesota

    CB Charles Woodson, Green Bay

    SS Adrian Wilson, Arizona

    FS Nick Collins, Green Bay

    Specialists

    P Jeff Feagles, New York

    K John Carney, New York

    KR Clifton Smith, Tampa Bay

    ST Sean Morey, Arizona

    Reserves

    Offense: WR Steve Smith, Carolina; WR Roddy White, Atlanta; T Chris Samuels, Washington; G Leonard Davis, Dallas; C Shaun O'Hara, New York; TE Chris Cooley, Washington; QB Drew Brees, New Orleans; QB Eli Manning, New York; RB Clinton Portis, Washington; RB Michael Turner, Atlanta

    Defense: DE Jared Allen, Minnesota; DT Pat Williams, Minnesota; OLB Derrick Brooks, Tampa Bay; ILB Jon Beason, Carolina; CB Asante Samuel, Philadelphia; FS Brian Dawkins, Philadelphia


    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/17/SP3814P3V1.DTL
     
  2. KingCheetah

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    SS Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh
     
  3. BigBenito

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    Steelers have 3. Jets have 7!!! Baltimore has 5.


    Steelers snubbed.
     
  4. weslinder

    weslinder Contributing Member

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    Who on the Steelers do you think got snubbed? I'd say that DeMeco Ryans deserved the reserve spot more than James Farrior.
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Contributing Member

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    You're not going to find much sympathy on a Houston message board.

    And you're welcome for beating the titans on Sunday.
     
  6. BigBenito

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    Farrior: 112 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 1 forced fumble, 5 passes defensed
    Ryans: 97 tackles, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble, 2 passes defensed



    #1(1) overall defense (ppg)
    vs
    #21(23) overall defense (ppg)


    Why exactly do you believe he deserved Farrior's spot?

    I'll make a list of snubbed Steelers... it'll probably kill my work day getting stats for the pro bowlers and Steelers.

    I didn't ask for sympathy; there are a few Steeler fans on the board to share in the grief. :p

    And thanks!
     
  7. SwoLy-D

    SwoLy-D Contributing Member

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    :confused: On what do they base choosing a kicker? Clutch kicking? Beating the Packers at Lambeau? What? ;)
     
  8. weslinder

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    I'm sorry, but leading the league in assisting on tackles by defensive superstars does not a Pro Bowler make in my mind. Farrior has the same number of solo tackles as Ryans on a team that gets run against a whole lot more (Steelers-unhuman secondary, Texans have went from an awful secondary to a below average one as the season progressed). Farrior is a good MLB that gets the most help in the league.
     
  9. Major

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    Rushing attempts against the Texans: 387
    Rushing attempts against the Steelers: 330

    Total tackles by the Texans: 585
    Total tackles by the Steelers: 564
     
  10. leroy

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    I bet Cortland Finnegan is happy to be on the same team as Andre Johnson this time around. He's probably been having nightmares of AJ since Sunday.
     
  11. Legend Killer

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    Farve over Rivers is a complete Joke.

    John Abraham also snubbed big time.

    Wont even mention #20 on the Texans
     
  12. weslinder

    weslinder Contributing Member

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    Damn those stats. I've watched a lot of both teams and could have sworn differently. I wonder how many of the running attempts against the Texans were the fourth quarter run-the-clock out kind.
     
  13. BigBenito

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    Sounds like you're making a case for some more Steelers!



    So, I was wrong. Stat-wise, quite sadly (hair has been pulled), I'm not able to justify any more Steelers. There are some players that I consider close, but unlike the NFL, I actually do believe in irrefutable evidence. Example, I think Woodley has had a better year than Suggs, but Suggs has 2 tds, which I can't really argue against.

    D-Line for Pit never get stats. They'll occasionally get a pro-bowl spot, when no one else seems to be especially good, but they're perennially passed over.

    CB/S isn't a position that I can make claims on how good a player is based on stats, since the best don't get thrown at. At least, that is what I'm telling myself, since I haven't really heard of Nnamdi Asomugha on the Raiders. I thought Taylor would be a lock for pro bowl this year, but a CB on the 29th pass defense (Revis) is better?

    Steeler O-Line is a joke + Roethlisberger holds on to the ball too long: killing any chance for OL, QB, WR, RB for a pro bowl spot.



    Apparently the best defense in the nfl doesn't deserve any more spots, because they are too good.

    Thread should be renamed to: (aka Jets, best team in football)
     
  14. brooksstephens

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    Lamarr Woodley should be in over Terell Suggs
     
  15. The_Yoyo

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    steeler fan myself but only 2 and 1 reserve? wow thats crazy hopefully it will just fire the defense up more to go out there and play with a chip on their shoulder.


    woodley has been playing great this year he should have been on there IMO
     
  16. Lil Pun

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    Who should have went from the Steelers that is not going?
     
  17. SwoLy-D

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    :eek: First-ever brother tandem playing in same ProBowl. I wonder if they'll ever be on the same team (backing up each other)...?

    Too bad Tiki retired.
     
  18. moestavern19

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    Gonna be cool to see Favre throwing to Andre Johnson.
     
  19. Dream34

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    Point taken that Andre Johnson had a career day against the Titans. Many of his receptions were not just on Finnegan. I still remember the one big reception where Finnegan was defending Johnson and they both went up for the ball. Johnson got it based on his height. Again not taking anything away from Johnson as he was truly a beast on Sunday (and most of the season). My only point is that Finnegan is one tough SOB and does not back down from any receiver. I still remember the first Titan/Texan game when Johnson was matched up on Finny and was held fairly quiet the majority of that game.

    Finny deserved the trip to Hawaii. For a 7th round pick he is a stud CB.

    Speaking of not deserving a trip is Kevin Mawae. Must of gotten their on name recognition.
     
  20. rrj_gamz

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    I have no problem with who was chosen...Romo and TO haven't been great so they shouldn't be in...I'm ok with that...
     

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