Spoiler But it wasn't so convincing. If it was a baby, you would risk your life. I didn't get that sense. A fine idea, but bad execution, as with many things in this show.
Just saw that episode and I think that situation was a reference to some of the stuff that happened in Iraq. Spoiler Dog and other animal bodies would be used to hide IEDS in Iraq so I think this was the next level up of using a living booby trap. For a soldier to ignore an obvious trap and put himself and the rest of the unit at risk must really take some mind altering. It sounds like that’s only possible through the haptics that they were implanted with. So while there are some big advantages with haptics it also seems like a huge vulnerability if they could be hacked in that way.
S1E7: loved it! There is so much slight-of-hand in these episodes that I start heading down one path of thought and the storyline corrects me and heads me off in a tangent. I thought Ossian and Ash were droids.
Got caught up last night and this show is really good. I wondered how they were going to keep the plots going in the two timelines and it really works. They are distinct but work well together. Spoiler One thing I really find interesting is the Stub and how the 2032 timeline actually is totally separate from the past that characters in 2099 experienced. It completely upends a common time travel trope that if you go back to the past and change something it will affect the time traveler came from and even the time traveler themselves. For example in Looper if the person in the past cuts themselves the time traveler gets a scar. In the peripheral none of that matters as the 2099 is practically another universe while actions in the past are spin-offs from their timeline. So basically they can do anything to the past with no bearing on the future. You could kill your grandparent in the park and still exist in the present. This is actually more in line with the latest cosmological theories notably the Many Worlds Theories. That each quantum action leads to a whole other universe. one thing that I hope they will expand on is that according to Zubov he killed the other versions of himself in other universes so it seems possible they not only can they access branches off universes in their past but also their present. I get the feeling this might come into play based on the dissuasion between the head of RI and the Met Police.
Agreed, really like learning about and watching both worlds. Like how they are slowly revealing things. Also I really like how they are handling “time travel”.
I'm already struggling a bit with the concept of the stub and the it interacting with the current timeline. But if there are multiple stubs that have yet to be introduced, it's gonna get hella confusing. I'll probably have to watch several times to grasp what the heck is going on...but I'd love to see this show get that deep. Spoiler Right when I thought Lowbeer was going to be the most intense character in this show, Nuland comes along and puts her in her place. Jeez...so hard to figure out who is actually in control in the future. And is no one going to talk about what happened between Connor-bot and Beatrice-bot?!? What a weird love entanglement that might end up being. And...there's also a weird potential love-interest between Flynn and Wilf. Curious to see if they draw that out. So far...favorite characters are probably Wilf, Lev and Burton. You guys hate Burton's (Reynor's) acting...but I love knowing he's a good guy no matter what. Just like having that guy on "my" side. Also...who betrayed Flynn's mom? Lev?
Seems like Spoiler RI is the true power broker with their advanced technology. I was really enjoying Lowbeer, kind of disappointing Nuland came along…
Spoiler So I guess there will be an unbalanced power struggle between the Klepts, the Met and RI. It's all so clear now, lol
Here’s another mind blowing thought tying into the idea of the many worlds theory and time travel. Not going to spoiler this as it’s not directly tied to the plot. Using the method of time travel in the Peripheral you actually would never travel to your own past. They action of contacting the past would create an alternate universe that would be different from your actual past. I think in the first episode they mention this that they create a new Stub every time the contact the past. Here’s a potential thought then. Since in the show they contact the past multiple times there isn’t just two timelines going on but multiple timelines.
That would be too mind wrecking ala Rick and Morty style and prob wouldn't be a good story device. It's kind of like declaring that those star trek transporters kill the person and clone them elsewhere on the spot. They dance around it, but it's damn disturbing to dwell on a constant basis. It'll be interesting to see how they explain stubs. It seems like they send information to and back like a fax machine, but how did the original msg get recieved in the first place?
Season finale tonight! I'll give it a few weeks to soak in and rewatch S1. Probably rewatch with CC on. Some of the English and Irish accents are a little strong and I think I'm missing some key info.
Finale was fantastic! Spoiler But I'm confused as hell regarding where in the world Flynne is now. I know she jumped to the 2032 stub, but wow, Connor killing her in the main timeline has completely tripped me out. And don't miss the extra scene with Lev at the end. Writers are setting things up for a big Season 2.
Great end of season. It resolved a lot of things the past eps brought up. Spoiler I was wrong with the many worlds take. They explained it well enough as video game lives. Still confusing for me at first.
Spoiler It still is the Many Worlds Idea as each stub is another universe. How it’s like a video game is that you can transfer your consciousness from one universe to the other. So by creating another stub you’ve rebooted. Flynne had to die in the stub that was her primary so that Nuland would think she was gone and no longer a threat. What I think she did was move her consciousness forward just before the moment of death and then back to another stub. I’ll admit that part isn’t quite so clear so will have to watch it again.
It has to be tough to make stories involving time travel that satisfies everyone. Spoiler I doubt Conner went through with it. Flynn would be needed to protect the people in her original stub from Lex. And it sets up a multiple Flynn storyline in S2. But if he did, the videogame idea of creating save locations and restarting your life over is just wack. It's the direction I didn't want the story to go.
