Which classes? I stopped after "American Presidents 345: Fillmore or less?" however, prior to that I did take "Introduction to Whigs", "Tippiecanology 1" and "Van Buren for non-president majors" and the mandatory Van Burenalysis Lab section.
My colors are showing??? I FREAKING VOTED FOR CLINTON, GLYNCH!! I see it as "Everyone responsible, so everyone really is." We had a breakdown at some very fundamental levels. At the municipal level...at the state level...and at the federal level. We need to find out why.
Max, it is ok to be conservative. (have colors) No need to get upset. I do take it as a hopeful sign that you get so upset if someone hints you might be a conservative.) I would. That vote for Clinton was quite awhile ago in your life-- a fling at liberalism in college? You have been a fairly consistent defender of Bush's policies. I will grant that you haven't been as consistent or as vociferous as TJ, bigtexx, etc.
""And to the extent that the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility. I want to know what went right and what went wrong," said Bush. Anyone else find this a weasel type of taking responsibility,when all his minions are trying sometimes lyingly to place most of the blame on others?
tippiecanology!!! i cant believe they made a whole class about william henry harrison! was it an elective? i hope you learned to always wear your jacket when its cold out and to keep those inagural addresses short!
Good post. Partly when I said: "colors"; then you shouted that you voted for Clinton. Peace. Max, do you actually think Bush has taken "responsibility" in other than a pr sense? Certainly he tried to initially deny any wrong doing-- "Brownie you're doing a hell of a job", the tried to place most of the blame on locals. Now this nuanced "responsibility" statement. I do admit Bush is finally putting some effort into it. Too bad the costs, in terms of human life and suffering, went up so high because of Bush's intial neglect. (doesn't mean nobody else had neglect) I think it is critical that we not let this rebuilding not turn into a Hallibruton-crony slush fund for Bush insiders. Ps. Now I remember what made me bring Max into this. His wierd interjection of Clinton into the apology thread.
the point was made that Bush was the best at PR...I think Clinton was even better. That's not a knock on either one of those guys. It's not support for either one of those guys. I agree...the executive agencies were lethargic. had their response been different, i believe more lives could have been saved. there is blame all around. and we need to find out what all the problems were.
Yes, while he takes fool responsibility and finally martyrs his stubborn insecurity for never admitting he's made a booboo, here's how he still continues to f*** the people of N.O. Baqui-style: Hurricane Looting Not Over Yet by Jesse Jackson The victims have been dispersed to states across the country. Many still sleep on cots in arenas, desperately trying to locate family members separated in the furies of Katrina. They are struggling with a staggering psychological toll -- destruction of homes, loss of jobs, suffering, abandonment, displacement to a new city, prospects unclear, past literally under water. But while the victims are simply trying to get their bearings, the barracudas are circling. Naomi Klein, who witnessed this in Iraq, calls it "disaster capitalism." Congress has appropriated $62 billion already. Hundreds of billions more will be spent on reclaiming the Gulf Coast, rebuilding and relocation. The feeding frenzy has begun. Already Halliburton is on hand with a no-bid contract for reconstruction. Fluor, Bechtel, the Shaw Group -- Republican-linked firms -- are lining up for contracts. Lobbyists like Joe Allbaugh, close friend of George Bush, and James Lee Witt, close friend of Bill Clinton -- both former heads of the Federal Emergency Management Agency -- are advising their corporate clients to get teams on the scene. Normal rules of contracting and competition are being waived in the emergency. Big bucks are on the table. It is a time to be wired politically. The ideologues are in the hunt, too. Newt Gingrich is circulating memos calling for turning the region into a massive enterprise zone, slashing corporate taxes, reducing regulations. The oil lobby is pushing for drilling in Alaska and off the shores of the United States. Right wing activist Grover Norquist calls for cutting taxes on the wealthy even more to stimulate the economy. Arizona Republican Rep. Jeff Flak suggests conservatives use the crisis to try out their favorite ideas -- vouchers for education and health care. President Bush characteristically issued an executive order effectively lowering the wages of reconstruction workers -- and hiking the profits of their companies. He wiped out the requirement to pay prevailing wages in the disaster region, apparently thinking that $9 an hour for construction workers was too high a price to pay. The government can save money, no doubt, by exploiting illegal immigrant labor. The New Orleans business establishment has already created a headquarters in Baton Rouge. They want to reopen the French Quarter, which didn't suffer much flooding in 90 days. They are planning to lobby for one of the 2008 presidential nominating conventions -- although it is hard to imagine that Republicans would want to remind folks of the administration's monumental failure. They're talking about capturing the next available Super Bowl. Business optimism and energy are vital for rebuilding New Orleans. Big dreams and big schemes are essential to the human spirit that will bring the Gulf Coast back. But those who were abandoned in the Superdome are looking at another manmade catastrophe. Dispersed in 40 states, Katrina's victims are struggling to get by, as companies pick up contracts and others get the jobs. If New Orleans is rebuilt as an enterprise zone, private investors will wait for the government to clean up the mess and then build luxury condos to replace affordable housing. They'll turn New Orleans into a theme park, with its former residents unable to afford to come back. We shouldn't let disaster capitalists make a killing while those who suffered the greatest devastation are left out of the mix. We need a serious plan to rebuild vital infrastructure, to make New Orleans sustainable, to develop affordable housing and mass transit, to rebuild schools. Tax breaks and enterprise zones will end up building floating casinos and luxury condos. We need public investment, linked to a Civilian Construction and Conservation Corps that gives priority to housing, hiring, training and putting to work the poor people who lost. The Bush administration's inaction and indifference after Katrina hit abandoned the poor and added to their suffering. It would be tragic now if action by the Republican Congress and the Bush administration added to the misery. These people already have had their past swept away by Katrina's furies. We should ensure that their future is not erased by right wing ideologues rewarding disaster capitalists and excluding those who suffered the most from the deal. © 2005 Chicago Sun-Times http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0913-32.htm
The author of this is one of the worst human beings in the history of America. He is bad for blacks. He is evil to non-black minorities. He is bad for whites. He makes me understand some of the liberals who simply will not listen to or trust W because that is how I am with this race baiting demon. He has done more to destroy hope for blacks since the Jim Crow segregational laws. He subordinates black people. He divides the country. He is an opportunist of Seanpennian proportions. He incites hate. He incites unrest.
Perhaps we are giving Bush too much credit, and Brown too much blame. Check this out. From Knight/Ridder, via the Austin American-Statesman: Chertoff had power to launch federal response to Katrina, not Brown, documents show Memo suggests confusion in wake of hurricane KNIGHT RIDDER NEWSPAPERS Wednesday, September 14, 2005 WASHINGTON -- The federal official with the power to mobilize a massive federal response to Hurricane Katrina was Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, not the former FEMA chief who was relieved of his duties and resigned earlier this week, federal documents reviewed by Knight Ridder show. Even before the storm struck the Gulf Coast, Chertoff could have ordered federal agencies into action without any request from state or local officials. Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Michael Brown had only limited authority to do so until about 36 hours after the storm hit, when Chertoff designated him as the "principal federal official" in charge of the storm. As thousands of hurricane victims went without food, water and shelter in the days after Katrina's Aug. 29 landfall, critics assailed Brown for being responsible for delays that might have cost hundreds of lives. But Chertoff -- not Brown -- was in charge of managing the national response to a catastrophic disaster, according to the National Response Plan, the federal government's blueprint for how agencies will handle major natural disasters or terrorist incidents. An order issued by President Bush in 2003 also assigned that responsibility to the homeland security director. According to a memo obtained by Knight Ridder, Chertoff didn't shift that power to Brown until late afternoon or evening on Aug. 30. That same memo suggests that Chertoff may have been confused about his lead role in disaster response and that of his department. "As you know, the President has established the 'White House Task Force on Hurricane Katrina Response.' He will meet with us tomorrow to launch this effort. The Department of Homeland Security, along with other Departments, will be part of the task force and will assist the Administration with its response to Hurricane Katrina," Chertoff said in the memo to the secretaries of defense, health and human services and other key federal agencies. Chertoff's Aug. 30 memo for the first time declared Katrina an "Incident of National Significance," a key designation that triggers swift federal coordination. The following afternoon, Bush met with his Cabinet, then appeared before TV cameras in the White House Rose Garden to announce the government's planned action. That same day, Aug. 31, the Department of Defense, whose troops and equipment are crucial in such large disasters, activated its Task Force Katrina. But active-duty troops didn't begin to arrive in large numbers until into the next week. White House and homeland security officials wouldn't explain why Chertoff waited some 36 hours to declare Katrina an incident of national significance and why he didn't immediately begin to direct the federal response from the moment on Aug. 27 when the National Hurricane Center predicted that Katrina would strike the Gulf Coast with catastrophic force in 48 hours. Nor would they explain why Bush felt the need to appoint a separate task force. Chertoff's hesitation and Bush's creation of a task force appear to contradict the National Response Plan and previous directives that specify what the secretary of homeland security is assigned to do without further presidential orders. The goal of the National Response Plan is to provide a streamlined framework for swiftly delivering federal assistance when a disaster is too big for local officials to handle. Russ Knocke, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security, didn't dispute that the National Response Plan put Chertoff in charge, but he disputed that the bureaucracy got in the way of launching the federal response. "There was a tremendous sense of urgency," Knocke said. The Chertoff memo indicates that the response to Katrina wasn't left to disaster professionals, but was run out of the White House, said George Haddow, a former deputy chief of staff at FEMA during the Clinton administration. "It shows that the president is running the disaster, the White House is running it as opposed to Brown or Chertoff," Haddow said. Brown "is a convenient fall guy. He's not the problem really. The problem is a system that was marginalized." http://www.statesman.com/news/content/auto/epaper/editions/wednesday/news_3472dc387199b0e41060.html# Keep D&D Civil!!
I disagree. Jackson wants to be at the center of things, and has made some mistakes, but to say he is one of the worst humans in the history of America is not looking at the facts. Jackson was one of the leaders of the civil rights movement was beside MLK when he was killed, and has done tremendous good for minorities in this country. In addition he has succeeded multiple times where our own govt. has failed in getting prisoners/hostages released from foreign nations, and has an amazing track record at that kind of diplomacy. The fact that he was able to succeed where Reagan and other president's have failed is a great thing, and I dont' believe the Americans that were freed as a result of Jackson's work think he is one of the worst most evil humans in the history of our nation. I agree that Jackson has become an opportunist. I disagree that he incites hate. He speaks out about what he feels are racist policies, and he is right at least half of the time when he does speak out about it. If that incites unrest, then I believe it should. As long as there is discrimination that helps to keep one group down, there should be unrest. I don't think he has done more to subordinate blacks than many of the white owned institutions that discriminate in hiring/promoting practices have that Jackson has fought against.
There may have been a time when JJ had altruistic ambitions but those days are long gone. Walking beside a brilliant, effective, and powerful man such as Dr. King does not make you great. I think MLK would be sickened by the way Jackson behaves.
Perhaps King would disagree with some of what Jackson does now. Some of it makes me angry, but he did more than walk with King. He was one of the leaders, organizers, and planners of King's movement.
I know. that's why I said "There may have been a time..." MLK is one of my favorite people in all of America's storied history. Jackson is a dung beetle next to Dr. King.
Disagree. Jackson is an opportunist and a blowhard, but to say he is one of the worst human beings in the history of America is a stretch.
Hey Chance, IIRC, Jackson called for continuation of feeding vegetated Terri Schiavo. I am sure you and he had the same stance on that. A worst human being in America also wouldn't want to stick his neck out to negotiate for the release of American hostages held in various hostile foreign countries. While I also feel annoyed by Jesse Jackson's all-too-often resorting to hyperhole in a number of issues and his hypocrisy of moral preaching, I find Jackson has done a lot more good to this country than your average televangelists and politicians. BTW, a good summary by FB on Jackson.
