Maybe you should check the box score and compare the scores in the 1st quarter (0-3). Seeing how that's when usually most of the starters play. And the play by play will give a small indication on how long some of the offensive starters played especially the quarterbacks. FYI, last night most of Arizona's starters only played one series. Fitzpatrick was going up against backups... Yikes.
No one said the sky was falling - here's where context matters again. If you look at the post I was responding to, it was specifically about the idea that they should look bad because they are implementing a new system with a new coach. The problem with that - and what your 49ers example confirms - is that there are tons of new coaches every year and they generally don't look that bad. You had to go back 4 years to find a similar example, despite the fact that there are 5-10 new coaches every year. That doesn't mean much of anything in the grand scheme of things - one preseason game is fairly meaningless and people shouldn't be trying to too extract much from it. But the excuse that they would suck because of a new coach/system doesn't hold.
Well I wouldn't say no one is saying that the sky is falling, I think there are several here that are saying exactly that. However, I get that wasn't your intention. I also agree that we shouldn't have assumed that the Texans would have such a poor performance in their first preseason game simply because of the new coach and new system, but like you said, it doesn't mean much of anything in the grand scheme of things. If the Texans right the ship and go 10-6 in the regular season, no one will care about a poor preseason game, or 4 poor preseason games if that's how it ends up.
Didn't watch the game. Did catch Manziel. Read about the game, saw highlights. Just wanted to jump in and say lulzzzzzzzzzz at Clowney covering a wheel route. What a joke. Embarrassing.
Not that it means anything but [preseason] debuts of coaches from the last 10-15 years. Spoiler 2001 Redskins(Schottenheimer)(L 20-0) 2002 Redskins(Spurrier)(W 38-7) 2004 Redskins(Gibbs)(W 20-17) 2008 Redskins(Zorn)(W 30-16) 2010 Redskins(Shanahan)(W 42-17) 2014 Redskins(Gruden)(W 23-6) 2011 Titans(Munchak)(W 14-3) 2014 Titans(Whisenhunt)(W 20-16) 2002 Bucs(Gruden)(W 14-10) 2009 Bucs(Morris)(L 27-20) 2012 Bucs(Schiano)(W 20-7) 2014 Bucs(Smith)(L 16-10) 2000 Rams(Martz)(W 31-17) 2006 Rams(Linehan)(W 19-17) 2009 Rams(Spagnulo)(W 23-20) 2012 Rams(Fisher)(L 38-3) 1999 Seahawks(Holmgren)(L 24-10) 2009 Seahawks(Mora)(W 20-14) 2010 Seahawks(Carroll)(W 20-18) 2003 49ers(Erickson)(W 24-6) 2005 49ers(Nolan)(W 21-13) 2009 49ers(Singletary)(W 17-16) 2011 49ers(Harbaugh)(L 24-3) 2002 Chargers(Schottenheimer)(L 24-17) 2007 Chargers(Turner)(L 24-16) 2013 Chargers(McCoy)(L 31-10) 2007 Steelers(Tomlin)(W 20-7) 1999 Eagles(Reid)(L 10-7) 2013 Eagles(Kelly)(L 31-22) 2002 Raiders(Callahan)(L 20-6) 2004 Raiders(Turner)(W 33-30) 2006 Raiders(Shell)(W 16-10) 2007 Raiders(Kiffin)(W 27-23) 2009 Raiders(Cable)(W 31-10) 2011 Raiders(Jackson)(L 24-18) 2012 Raiders(Allen)(L 3-0) 2000 Jets(Groh)(W 24-20) 2001 Jets(Edwards)(L 20-10) 2006 Jets(Mangini)(L 16-3) 2009 Jets(Ryan)(L 23-20) 2004 Giants(Coughlin)(W 34-24) 2000 Saints(Haslett)(L 24-20) 2006 Saints(Payton)(W 19-16) 2000 Patriots(Belichick)(W 20-0) 2002 Vikings(Tice)(L 27-15) 2006 Vikings(Childress)(L 16-13) 2011 Vikings(Frazier)(L 14-3) 2014 Vikings(Zimmer)(W 10-6) 2000 Dolphins(Wannstedt)(L 13-10) 2005 Dolphins(Saban)(L 27-24) 2007 Dolphins(Cameron)(W 18-17) 2008 Dolphins(Sparano)(L 17-6) 2012 Dolphins(Philbin)(L 20-7) 1999 Chiefs(Cunningham)(W 22-20) 2001 Chiefs(Vermeil)(W 20-0) 2006 Chiefs(Edwards)(W 24-14) 2009 Chiefs(Haley)(L 16-10) 2012 Chiefs(Crennel)(W 27-17) 2013 Chiefs(Reid)(L 17-13) 2003 Jaguars(Del Rio)(W 16-14) 2012 Jaguars(Mularkey)(W 32-31) 2013 Jaguars(Bradley)(L 27-3) 2002 Colts(Dungy)(W 28-10) 2009 Colts(Caldwell)(L 13-3) 2012 Colts(Pagano)(W 38-3) 2002 Texans(Capers)(L 34-17) 2006 Texans(Kubiak)(W 24-14) 2014 Texans(O'Brien)(L 32-0) 1999 Packers(Rhodes)(W 27-16) 2000 Packers(Sherman)(W 37-24) 2006 Packers(McCarthy)(L 17-3) 2001 Lions(Mornhinweg)(L 27-24) 2003 Lions(Mariucci)(W 26-13) 2006 Lions(Marinelli)(W 20-13) 2009 Lions(Schwartz)(W 27-26) 2014 Lions(Caldwell)(W 13-12) 2009 Broncos(McDaniels)(L 17-16) 2011 Broncos(Fox)(L 24-23) 2000 Cowboys(Campo)(L 38-10) 2003 Cowboys(Parcells)(L 13-0) 2007 Cowboys(Phillips)(W 23-10) 2011 Cowboys(Garrett)(W 24-23) 1999 Browns(Palmer)(W 20-17) 2001 Browns(Davis)(W 10-3) 2005 Browns(Crennel)(W 17-14) 2009 Browns(Mangini)(L 17-0) 2011 Browns(Shurmur)(W 27-17) 2013 Browns(Chudzinski)(W 27-19) 2014 Browns(Pettine)(L 13-12) 2001 Bengals(LeBeau)(L 16-13) 2003 Bengals(Lewis)(L 28-13) 1999 Bears(Jauron)(W 9-6) 2004 Bears(Smith)(W 13-10) 2013 Bears(Trestman)(L 24-17) 1999 Panthers(Seifert)(L 35-10) 2002 Panthers(Fox)(L 37-30) 2011 Panthers(Rivera)(W 20-10) 2001 Bills(Williams)(L 24-10) 2004 Bills(Mularkey)(W 16-6) 2006 Bills(Jauron)(L 14-13) 2010 Bills(Gailey)(L 42-17) 2013 Bills(Marrone)(W 44-20) 1999 Ravens(Billick)(L 10-7) 2008 Ravens(Harbaugh)(W 16-15) 2004 Falcons(Mora)(L 24-0) 2008 Falcons(Smith)(L 20-17) 2001 Cardinals(McGinnis)(L 10-7) 2004 Cardinals(Green)(L 23-6) 2007 Cardinals(Whisenhunt)(L 27-23) 2013 Cardinals(Arians)(W 17-0)
Maybe you think more highly of Kaepernick than I do. IMO Kap is just a poor man's Russell Wilson. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities that Keenum could be a game manager who protects the ball.
Did you come across those coaches regular season W-L records (for those years) when you was looking for that information Mr JR...?
This franchise just has no freaking clue, and it starts with the old man. His delusions filter down and permeate the experience. This team is such a joke, it does not deserve our attention.
I am still utterly clueless as to how we had such a successful back to back season stretch two years ago. Looks like last year and this season are the years we regress to the mean. What a cluster****.
Ask any texans fan, coach, and uncle bob would they rather a "poor mans" Russ Wilson (kap) or the trash we have at qb. No brainer. Kap makes plays. Our qbs make plays for the opposing team.
In my experience, Texans fans are not very bright and are very fond of knee jerk reactions. For all we know, we have that kind of QB on the roster right now, but of course it's more fun to declare the sky is falling after one preseason game. Had we won that game, I'm sure the same people who think the sky is falling today would be predicting a SB win right now. Why can't we just let a little bit more play out before we abandon ship?
Case is going to be our starter again. Hope he's as good as you think he is. He shows flashes of brilliance. Reign him in and he has the best chance out of Fitz, himself, and Savage to be the "hold the fort" guy.
Well I'm not one of those people. I said 5-11 and that preseason game is not the reason why. Can't expect 10 wins with one of the worst starting qbs in football.
Why cant we sign Asante Samuel to add some depth to our crappy secondary? Brandon Harris is pure crap and needs to be removed from the roster, asap.
I was definitely disappointed last night in the effort but im still thinking things will gel more and more as the season progresses. We had some good players not in the game and Swearinger had the hit of the night. Nowhere to go but up.
I just hope he can protect the ball and be a successful game manager. IMO that would be enough. I wasn't suggesting anyone in particular was, just that the overall fanbase is like that. I'm hoping either Fitz figures out how to protect the ball or they go with someone who can, if the past 2 years has shown us anything it's that you don't need a good QB to get to the SB, you just have to have a QB who protects the ball.
