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[Preseason Gm 1] Texans @ Cardinals

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Jet Blast, Aug 9, 2014.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=310812018
     
  2. J Sizzle

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    It's one thing to look bad. It's another to look completely incompetent. It's only one preseason game, but last night was bad.
     
  3. DonkeyMagic

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    Well that was terrible.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    The coaching is irrelevant when the players suck.

    Not sure why Bob decided to roll with basically the same team as last year.
     
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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    What choice did he have?
     
  6. Remii

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    To be fair Mr Major... I believe 3 of those teams have coaches with previous NFL head coaching experience and I believe 2-3 of them coached teams to the super bowl as well.

    Still doesn't make it look any better though.
     
  7. solid

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    Sort of looked like a college team against a professional team. The talent gap was glaring. Besides that the Texans seemed really disorganized. A couple more games like that and we need a 0-16 option on the prediction poll.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    I would have liked to see more moves. If we aren't contending then consider trading Andre, Foster, and Joseph for picks.

    All we got was this:
    1. Sign Fitzpatrick
    2. Do the draft
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    People may not like the Rockets and Astros plans, but at least they have one.

    What is the Texans plan? Coach really hard?
     
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  10. Bandwagoner

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    I completely agree. O'Brien has a clean slate. Rick and Bob have a horrible track record.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    So you wanted them to completely tank and start from scratch? BOB would have been fired before the team was even halfway decent if they had done that.

    I'm not ready to panic just yet, that first preseason game was pretty awful, but Harbaugh's first preseason game (and third) with the Niners was just as bad and they went on to a 13-3 record that year. Hopefully we'll see more next game and perhaps some of Keenum with the 1's if Fitz continues to stink it up.
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Either tank or make moves to get better. Dont just stay the same.

    Or maybe I'm just used to the jarring moves the Rockets and Astros make on a regular basis.
     
  13. J.R.

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    ProFootballFocus:

    [rQUOTEr]Houston – Three Performances of Note

    Tantalizing Glimpses from Clowney

    The much anticipated NFL debut of Jadeveon Clowney (20 snaps, +1.8 overall) delivered, if nothing else, an early signature play. His tackle on Stepfan Taylor at the 8:48 mark in the first quarter was more than a little reminiscent of his signature play from his college career as he blew through the block of Darren Fells to spin down Taylor for a 5-yard loss. He added to this work in run defense with a couple of nice plays as a pass rusher even if he came up empty on the stat sheet. When J.J. Watt demolished Jonathan Cooper for a sack on the second play of the game, Clowney was hot on his heels. Having driven back Jared Veldheer on a bullrush, he was ready to shed and drive inside for the sack if his illustrious teammate hadn’t beaten him to it.

    One of the few notes of caution for Clowney was an area many highlighted when it became clear the Texans would take him to play outside in a 3-4; his pass coverage. Though he was fine early on the first drive reading the play in front of him and closing on Andre Ellington for a short gain, later on the drive he was beaten badly on a wheel route by John Carlson for a touchdown wiped off the board by a penalty. The Texans were nearly caught on a similar play later in the game with only a slightly off-target throw by Drew Stanton and a desperate recovery by Jason Ankrah preventing a similar score. Clearly something for both Clowney and the Texans to work on moving forward, but this was a solid debut for this year’s top pick.

    The Quarterback Conundrum Continues to Confound

    Another option for the Texans’ atop the Draft in May was a quarterback and though Clowney may prove the better choice in time, right now they look short of a good option under center. New signing Ryan Fitzpatrick (30 snaps, -3.6 passing) took the start and was shaky from the outset. Missing Garrett Graham high and outside on his first throw things didn’t get any better from there with Jerraud Powers almost snagging an interception on the ensuing third down. Even on his usually comfortable short passes Fitzpatrick was off target hitting on only four of eight targets within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. He rounded out his first half of work falling victim to a one-handed interception from Marcus Benard dropping unseen in front of a crossing route by Mike Thomas.

    Things didn’t start any better for backup Case Keenum who drew a delay of game penalty immediately out of the half time interval and did little to suggest that he will buy himself time ahead of this year’s fourth round pick Tom Savage who registered only six snaps at the end of the game. As good as Clowney and Watt could make the defense, if no one steps up under center, the gains in the win column will be limited.

    Corners Get a Workout

    When one of the few bright notes to draw for a team is that their reserve corners looked decent in run support you know things haven’t gone well. To their credit the likes of Josh Victorian, Elbert Mack and Marcus Williams did do some good work, between them they registered six stops in the run game. However, generally speaking, you’re looking for your corners to cover and that didn’t go so well. Among the starters Brandon Harris (20 snaps, -3.2 coverage) and Kareem Jackson (20 snaps, -1.2 coverage) each gave up a completion on every target (three each) and a touchdown apiece. Meanwhile, Victorian’s solid work in run defense wasn’t carried over into his work in coverage where he let up seven completions on seven targets for a team-high 74 yards. Whether it was Carson Palmer, Drew Stanton or Logan Thomas, the Cardinals’ quarterbacks had little trouble going up and down the field.

    ____________________

    - Houston’s second-round pick Xavier Su’a-Filo split his time between left tackle (15 snaps) and left guard (12 snaps) earning a +0.2 overall grade in a solid debut.[/rQUOTEr]
     
  14. Remii

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    But McNair said he expected a quick turnaround and the Texans drafted as such. If they would have went along with your suggestion, it's no guarantee they would have drafted JD and I know you didn't want that... Because if expectations were different they may would have went in a different direction.
     
  15. Major

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    Maybe you should check the year....
     
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    is keenum our kaepernick?
     
  18. Major

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    My bad - didn't look that far in detail. Good to see we have an example 4 years ago of a new coach that had a sucky debut. All is well again with the Texans.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    I think he could be, only hopefully we wouldn't give him that kind of contract.

    I never said all is well again, only that the sky isn't necessarily falling. Also, does it really matter that it was 4 years ago? It's not like that was a different era of football or anything.

    Could the Texans suck this year? Sure. Could the Texans bounce back from a poor first preseason game and do alright this season? Sure.
     
  20. Texanasiafan

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    You are posting in the wrong forum.

    This is NFL.

    Trading players is a joke, nothing like the NBA.
     

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