After Jar Jar I never thought I'd ever like a computer generated character in a movie that wasn't called Toy Story. How do you think it could've been done better as a movie? Maybe I wouldn't have casted Elijah Wood bc he's always kind of annoyed me. Maybe not Liv Tyler either but it worked fine. At least they didn't hire all "little people" to play hobbits. I'll bet Warwick Davis was waiting by his phone eagerly when he heard they were making it. But then he wouldn't have been able to do Leprecahn 5 so everything works out. That would've been just a lose-lose situation.
Christopher Tolkien, mighty defender of the Tolkien estate, is a psycho hose beast. The dude disowned his son, Simon Tolkien, for helping Peter Jackson. Talk about having your priorities in order. He also helped finish the Silmarillion (which explains why I psychically hated him before knowing that piece of information). While you know me a staunch LOTR movies advocate, nomar, even I admitted (in a thread started by you, no less) that Citizen Kane was the best movie ever. Return of the King as best movie of the year? Absolutely. Best movie ever? Um, even I'm not that delusional. Holy f***ing Christ, nomar. From one fanboy to another, this very well may be the dumbest thing you've EVER posted. As a LOTR purist, you would want the very guy who ruined the movie adaption of your precious Dune? Sure, David Lynch's LOTR would be great, if... 1) you think the role of Aragorn should be given to Sting. 2) you absolutely love inner dialogue and Calvin Klein Obsession commercials. 3) you think Peter Jackson didn't alter the story ENOUGH. Granted, it's been 20 years since Dune came out, and David Lynch has had time to "grow," but would you really want to see his version? Geez, he'd probably have Frodo and Sam hook up in the end and reveal that the whole quest was just a strange, erotic dream. No thanks. Your other proposed directors: 1) Ridley Scott - Could do a decent job, but he'd probably use the overexposed and overrated Hans Zimmer to score the film, which would mean tribal beats, synthesized drum beats, etc. Ugh. Would he really invest years and years into the project? 2) Steven Spielberg - Too freaking Hollywood. Sadly seems to have lost his magic touch, based on his last few outings. Besides, having the inevitable all-star cast (*cough*Hook*cough*) would be a little distracting. However, having John Williams score the film might be worth it... 3) Christophe Gans - Brotherhood of the Wolf was just okay. Not nearly as good as the hype, though. A complete unknown director with 2 real movies under his belt. Pass. 4) David Fincher - Interesting choice. The guy is creative, but he's more known for stylized thrillers. What about Christopher Nolan? James Cameron? Francis Ford Coppola?
You still don't get it do you Vescey. LOTR Purist? Hardly. I woudn't have any problems with changes being made. If they were GOOD CHANGES. Perhaps Lynch would change some things, but there is no questioning his directing skill. About Ridley - I happen to think that Zimmer is 10 times better than Shore. I hated the soundtrack to LOTR, and it was repetitive as hell. About Spielberg - Agree about casting issues, but it would be nice to have some legitimate actors. It would help the acting quality. Gans - I threw in Gans because he is coming from a similar situation as Hackson before LOTR. Relative unknown. Although much better and more sophisticated sylistically and also in skill. Fincher - True about the thrillers, but remember he also did Alien 3 back in the day early on in his career. He has vision for scifi/fantasy. Nolan - not right genre, Coppola - over the hill, Cameron - Yep Cameron would have also been a good choice.
I disagree. I think you ARE a LOTR purist, based on the many things you've had to say about the project in the past 3 years. You were enraged that Jackson didn't include trivial quotes from trivial charcters in the movies. That smacks of purist talk to me. Didn't you want to see Tom Bombadil, the most boring character EVAH? What about the scouring of the Shire? I may have to go back to earlier threads and hunt around for your quotes. The guy turned casual fans off from the Dune series with his "vision." What makes you think it won't happen again? While I'm no Howard Shore superfan (the first two soundtracks were average), I think his ROTK score was kickass. And Zimmer isn't repetitive? Hello? His freaking themes are repetitive across DIFFERENT movies. He rips himself off so much, it all sounds like the same score. Lion King = Gladiator = Crimson Tide = The Last Samurai = The Rock = Zzzzzzzz. The dude hasn't had originality since Backdraft. Yeah, I remember Alien3. The thing is, sci-fi is different from fantasy, IMO, and to lump the 2 together is wrong. Besides, Alien3 was more horror than sci-fi. At least Jackson did The Frighteners, a paranormal fantasy-esque film. At last. An agreement.
Speaking of butchering of books to movie (not LotR) did anyone see/read The Count of Monte Cristo? That would've been MUCH more suited to a 10 episode miniseries on NBC like Gulliver's Travels or Merlin. What ever happened to those type projects? I enjoyed em alot. NBC should make more.
I was not enraged that he didn't include trivial quotes. I would have liked him to include them, but I was hardly enraged nor did that play a large role in me not liking it. I didn't care about Tom Bombadil, and I didn't care about the Scouring. Give credit to Lynch for even making a 2 hour movie of Dune. It is the most complex novel ever! The only way to even attempt something like that would be to include inner monologue. Re: Zimmer - Dude, you realize you just named like some of the most kickass soundtracks EVER? Gladiator, The Rock, Last Samurai, Crimson Tide. Actually, I think those may be the 4 best scored movies of the past 15 years. Shore's work in LOTR was just crappy in my opinion. That main theme, the one they play when Legolas surfs down stairs, and well generally every scene where Hackson wants to beat the audience over the head with "Hey! This is a triumphant moment! Take notice!", is bad. It just isn't good stuff IMO. Zimmer is probably my favorite scorer with John Williams. RE: Fincher - Dude. The Frighteners? Haven't seen it but I've heard that is a comedy/horror movie. That has much less to do with LOTR than Alien 3, which is a sort of epic movie that takes place in a different world. Not the same, but much closer than anything Hackson has done. Regardless, my first choice would have still been Ridley. Fantastic visual director, also a big name, could have gotten a name writer and better actors. I think the world creating ability exhibited in Blade Runner should speak for itself. Ah well. I guess there is still Ender's Game to look forward to. Wolfgang Peterson indeed.
