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Predictions: Hawkeye Cauci

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by weslinder, Jan 2, 2008.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    at first yes, but the more you think about it, its not surprising. he still has an appeal to a certain group of people who like the tough talking so called common sense approach, old fashioned approach to problem solving. and he's a popular person
     
  2. mc mark

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    old people
     
  3. pirc1

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    I hope Obama knows how to run the country and is not just all motivational speech, cann't be worse than Bush though no matter what. I might go support him in May if the race haven't been decided by then.
     
  4. rimrocker

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    Re: Republicans voting for Obama... that is an interesting phenomenon. You probably had Republicans who wanted to stick it to Hillary and Republicans who are sick of their party and some combo. Looking at the results though, without independents and Republicans, Obama would have still won, but it would have cut his percentage down to one or two points.

    Likewise, Mrs. rimrocker and I speculated on the VP choice. I don't think it would be any established figure from DC or the campaign. His message is change. Wouldn't surprise me if he goes with a new Senator from 2006... Tester or Webb would be interesting choices, both for their personalities and the electoral map.
     
  5. mc mark

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    Mark Warner?
     
  6. rimrocker

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    Total Voter Turnout (approximate)
    356,000

    Percentage of total vote

    24.5% Obama
    20.5% Edwards
    19.8% Clinton
    11.4% Huckabee (R)
     
  7. rhadamanthus

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    I don't support Huckabee and think Rall is often funny, but that is a moronic strip. Sometimes I think Rall is mentally ill.
     
  9. rhadamanthus

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    While I agree that Rall can often go off the deep end, what about this strip makes you cringe?

    I think it poignant on numerous fronts.
     
  10. geeimsobored

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    As someone who actually is Hindu, that's pretty ****ing stupid and inaccurate.
     
  11. T Rex

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    From Boston.com.....

    However, recent history hasn't been kind to candidates who won early caucuses and primaries, with all of them faltering in later states. Obama and Huckabee now join Democrats Gary Hart (1984) and Paul Tsongas (1992), and Republicans George H.W. Bush (1980), Bob Dole (1988), Pat Buchanan (1996), and John McCain (2000), who each marshaled time-for-a-change anger to win a hotly contested race in Iowa or New Hampshire, only to fall to the favorite of their party's establishment.

    Obama and Huckabee may be in better shape than any of those candidates, but the experiences of past insurgents suggest that Obama and Huckabee still have many challenges ahead of them.
     
  12. rhadamanthus

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    As someone who is not hindu (but knows a bit about it), I can still say that Rall is really not trying to make any sort of legitimate statement regarding Hinduism within this cartoon. Sheesh.
     
  13. A_3PO

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    Tell me exactly what legitimate statement he is trying to make this time.

    I repeat for emphasis: Rall's strips often make me laugh and I even agree with his points sometimes, but I'm just not getting this one. A guess: Is he ridiculing Huckabee and saying the media and Iowa's voters gave him a free ride?
     
  14. rhadamanthus

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    My take was a mockery of both

    1) Huckabee's silly stance on creationism due to his fundamentalist christian roots.

    and

    2) the media's willingness to gloss over this fact, which is particularly confusing given their propenisty to NOT gloss over other equally silly religious convictions, a la Romney.


    While it is highly likely that Rall views Hinduism with contempt (as he does most every religion as far as I can tell), I really don't think that is the motive here.

    I found this cartoon especially poignant given the current hoopla in the thread regarding Obama and slave reparations. Apparently, it's totally disconcerting that Obama has not definitively stood against reparations (obviously he has never stood for them either, but I digress), but totally uninteresting that Huckabee is capable of ignoring an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence, and the writings of numerous church bodies to boot.

    It reeks of favoritism, and a predisposition to ignore "christian" stupidity.
     

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