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Predictions: Hawkeye Cauci

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  1. texanskan

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    Obama is a joke, if either he or Huckabee get the nod I will vote the other way. If they are against each other I will vote ind.
     
  2. weslinder

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    The really odd thing is that Ron Paul is one day short of being a year older than John McCain, and seems much younger. John McCain looks and talks like a distinguished man in his seventies. Ron Paul seems like he could pass for 10 years younger.
     
  3. wrath_of_khan

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    Despite the fact that NH is conservative and in the northeast, the McCain win was a HUGE upset because Bush had raised the most money ever (IIRC) and was all but anointed the nominee as early as 1999 by the GOP establishment. W had all the money, endorsements, the organization, etc. The McCain win in 2000 was a political earthquake.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    That sounds great. I hope the voters follow.
     
  5. rimrocker

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    Comprehensive? You've got to be kidding. Here's his "comprehensive" national security plan:

    Any grade school follower of politics could have written that. And any low-level WH apparatchik could have written this:
    And really, missile defense?

    OK, maybe Fred doesn't know enough about foreign policy to talk in anything but generalities and Cheney-approved rhetoric. How about the budget? After all, he was a Senator and should have some well thought out plans for that subject, right? Eh, not so much...

    Wow, he's going to work with people. He's going to lead, and make hard choices. Now, where have we heard that before?

    Everything under that link is anything but well thought out and is certainly not comprehensive. He put as much energy into his "policies" as he did being a candidate.

    To be fair, he didn't mention the Soviet Union. so that's progress of some sort I guess.
     
  6. basso

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    ^^
    there's a whole lot more there than you posted, mc rim-dowd, and your snakiness betrays your lack of sincerity.
     
  7. basso

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    oh, Emily...

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    [rquoter]GOP presidential hopeful Fred Thompson said in an in-studio interview with KCCI-TV in Des Moines that there is no truth to rumors that his campaign will fold before New Hampshire if he doesn't have a strong showing in Iowa.

    "That is absolutely made up out of whole cloth," said the former U.S. Senator from Tennessee.

    Thompson said a rival campaign was likely the source of that rumor.

    "Can you imagine such a thing in politics?" he asked.

    Thompson said his campaign is seeing a "surge" in interest right now, and said he has visited 50 communities in the Hawkeye State in the last couple weeks.

    "I'm not going to play into any scenario that's not totally optimistic," he said.

    Thompson touched on his plan for strengthening border security to prevent terrorist attacks, and his plan to simplify the tax code.

    "Our tax code is a mess right now," he said.[/rquoter]

    [rquoter]Team Fred Strongly Denies... [Byron York]

    Good morning from Des Moines. I just got off the phone with Rich Galen, a top adviser to Fred Thompson, and it would be an understament to say that he is strongly denying the Politico story reporting that Thompson "will drop out of the race within days if he finishes poorly in Thursday's caucus."

    The story cites "several Republican officials close to Fred Thompson's presidential campaign." Galen told me, "I'm a Republican official in the Thompson campaign, and I'm denying it." Galen also said that no one inside the campaign was a source for the story. "I can't put enough adjectives in front of the 'deny' to accurately describe how vehemently I'm denying the story," he said.

    Galen said that "just to make sure," he checked with Thompson himself, who told him the story was not true. "We have the schedule for Saturday and Sunday in New Hampshire, and then we're going down to South Carolina," Galen told me.[/rquoter]

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTcxZmFmMWM1MmUzODc5MGMzNjUzNGZhNDQ2NWU3YWI
     
  8. Batman Jones

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    They have to say that. They'd lose the small support they had in IA if they admitted they were dropping out and the campaign doesn't want it to be over even if the candidate does. Meanwhile Fred said he needed a strong finish in Iowa to stay in and when asked what that meant he held up two fingers, signifying second place. He's setting his own expectations too high to meet because he's sick of doing this and wants an excuse to drop out.

    Looks like you've backed two losers so far in Giuliani and Thompson. Wanna make it three with Romney?
     
  9. basso

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    i love the pre-emptive gloating batty, you remind me of Michael Moore gloating about the debate Wes Clark was going to have with George Bush in the general...oops!
     
  10. SamFisher

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    LOL, like I said before, rookie Wesley Clark's campaign was the 2007 NE Patriots compared to veteran Drop Dead Fred's R.I.P. "effort".

    This is going to be a fun thread to bump when Fredo is gone! :cool:
     
  11. StupidMoniker

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    Unless you count the year 1984 when Ronald Reagan was elected to a second term at the ripe old age of 73 (74 in early February of '85).
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    Yeah, pre-emptive gloating is awesome. Remember how the Iraq war was supposed to turn out? Oops!

    I seem to remember some pre-emptive gloating from you re: Rudy too... Hmmm... Haven't heard too much of that lately. And now you're hitched to a guy that's quitting in a week maximum? This is gonna be a hard year for you, basso.
     
  13. Major

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    basso - out of curiosity, do you believe Thompson is going to win, or do you simply support him? I'm not a believer in just "supporting the winners" as opposed to the best candidates, but I'm curious if you think he has a realistic chance. And if he does, how do think the primaries play out to get him the win? I can't see him winning or being even close in Iowa or NH, but maybe South Carolina?
     
  14. basso

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    i'm not "hitched" to anyone- i do like Rudy, but i also like McCain (to some extent) and Fred and Obama to a certain extent. Romney could be ok, but doesn't get my pulse racing. Huckabee's a joke, as are you.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    basso supports Fred! so that he can use his Metamucil Pulpit to influence the republicans into supporting his revolutionary policy initiatives, such as strong defense and tax cuts.
     
  16. basso

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    i generally like him. whether he has a realistic chance or not is just too soon to say. the conventional wisdom on this day on 2004 was Howard Dean, and look how that turned out. it's a highly unconventional year, with some many delegate rich states front-loaded on the calendar. certain candidates, all the democrats, plus Huckabee, Romney, and to a certain extent McCain, are running conventional campaigns.

    Fred and Rudy, each in his own way, are running unconventional campaigns. i find that refreshing- we'll know in a month who was right.

    but scoreboard pointing at this point, with so few delegates at stake, is just ridiculous.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    ^ we'll know next week after Fred jettisons his campaign or lack thereof.
     
  18. Major

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    Makes sense - I don't think Fred has anything going for him, but you're right - there's no way to know at this point. Who knows what will even happen with tonight's caucuses in comparison to the current polls.
     
  19. mc mark

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    Well whatever happens tonight I think we can all agree that everyone is excited to get past the disaster of the last eight years! Never have I seen people so ready to start the political process of electing the next president.

    how exciting!
     
  20. basso

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    has the d&d been around that long?
     

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