The whole caucus bull***** is stupid. Why can't Iowa just have a primary system like everyone else. It's a terribly outdated system.
I'll throw my guesses out there: Libs: Clinton -- Too strong of a ground organization, relying on the very predictable old timers to vote for her. Obama relying on young voters and 1st caucus goers. Republicans: Huckabee by a nose over Romney
OK, first, it won't be too terribly tough for Thompson to do better given his abysmal polling lately. I was even watching Fox earlier this afternoon and Luntz was doing his shtick with a focus group and he admitted he had a hard time rounding up a Thompson voter... but not people who used to be somewhat in favor of Fred. And please... what liberal, Dem, progressive, populist, greenie, socialist, commie, free-soiler, or Bull Mooser ever suggested, much less fantasized about Huck being presidential material? We're too busy laughing at him exposing the hypocrisy and the fractures and splits of the modern Republican Party. Rudy not competing? Of course he is (whether he admits it or not) and his dismal finish will play to the strengthening narrative that he is done for. Only idiots completely dismiss the early states... if you're going to lead the country, then you should campaign in all parts of the country, including those that are outside your hometown's media market or have a lot of transplanted NYers... and except for one unfortunate example, idiots don't win.
Romney's going through money like a drunken sailor in Singapore and he's fighting a two front war... against Huck in Iowa and now McCain in NH... and Willard ain't no FDR. Not to mention he is distinctly unpalatable to a bunch of Repub voters. I'm sure he has a great business plan though.
For how long? http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7682.html Fred Thompson may drop out By: Jonathan Martin and Mike Allen Jan 2, 2008 11:05 PM EST Fred Thompson’s departure could shake up the race more than his continued presence. If Thompson exits, he's expected to endorse John McCain. DES MOINES, Iowa – Several Republican officials close to Fred Thompson’s presidential campaign said they expect the candidate will drop out of the race within days if he finishes poorly in Thursday’s Iowa caucus. Thompson’s campaign, which last spring and summer was generating fevered anticipation in the media and with some Republican activists, has never ignited nationally, and there are no signs of a late spark happening here in Iowa, where even a third-place finish is far from assured. This reality—combined with a fundraising drought—left well-connected friends and advisers of Thompson Wednesday evening predicting that he will pull the plug on hype and hope before the Jan. 8 New Hampshire primary. Thompson’s departure could shake up the race more than his continued presence. Friends and advisers said they have long considered it likely that if the lobbyist-actor is forced from the race he would endorse John McCain his former Senate colleague who lately has been staging a political revival in New Hampshire. “Without a solid third-place finish, there’s no point in going on,” a Thompson adviser said Wednesday. “It was an honorable race, and he turned out to be a good candidate. The moment had just passed.” A Thompson campaign source said there is “a strong likelihood” that if Thompson comes in a distant third in Iowa, with less than 15 percent of the vote, he would drop out soon—most likely before this weekend’s New Hampshire presidential debates. The Thompson sources said they were describing a consensus expectation that is now widespread among his political circle, not announcing a decision that the candidate himself has definitively reached. But Thompson lately has been dropping clear signals that he has reached an up-or-out moment of his own. On Wednesday he took the unusual step of raising expectations for himself at a time when most other candidates are trying to lower them. When asked what Iowa results he’d be happy with, Thompson held up two fingers, indicating a second-place finish, according to reporters who were with him. He did something similar on Sunday, when Thompson—apparently in a semi-jocular mood—dismayed his staff by telling reporters that he needed to finish second in the caucuses, a bar that nobody here expects him to cross. Thompson aides have long said he needs an early victory to serve as a bridge to connect him to the key Southern contests that he envisioned propelling him to the nomination. Thompson had pinned his hopes entirely on Iowa serving that role. But every recent poll has showed him lagging in a distant third. Thompson picked up a key endorsement in the backing of Rep. Steve King, a conservative who represents the western part of the state, and had won acclaim from conservative activists for his closing message to Iowa voters, a Web video arguing that the Democratic candidates are all running to the left and beholden to special interests like the National Education Association. Thompson, the former U.S. senator from Tennessee and “Law and Order” actor, brought a dash of celebrity and down-home humor to the strait-laced field of Republican candidates. But conservatives’ excitement quickly dissipated after he got off to a sluggish start and showed only sporadic enthusiasm for campaigning. Recently, his stump speeches have dripped with contempt for the press and the campaign process, and this week he even joked about napping. On New Year’s Day, he held just one campaign event at a time when the top candidates were going full throttle. His war chest was so depleted that he was unable to advertise on television after Christmas, and was only able to back on the air in Iowa by blasting a stream of e-mails pleading for contributions. Friends and advisers emphasized that no deal has been cut to have Thompson endorse McCain. But they note that there would be a logic to doing so soon, in order to help a friend and colleague at a moment when he needs it most. In turn, Thompson might be named attorney general in a McCain administration. Trying to fend off rumors about an impending demise of the campaign, Thompson issued a news release Wednesday afternoon saying he plans to participate in debates in New Hampshire on Saturday and Sunday. Thompson was alone in issuing such a release: No other campaign thought that was necessary. Despite the air of doom hovering over his candidacy, Thompson has not yet shared his intentions with the campaign or indicated to friends that he has reached a decision in tandem with his wife, Jeri, an influential adviser. Campaign underlings continue to make plans as far ahead as Super Tuesday, Feb. 5. “Doing well in Iowa means exceeding expectations, and Fred has been exceeding expectations for more than forty years,” said Karen Henretty, a Thompson spokeswoman. “Thursday’s results aren’t likely to close any chapters.” But other advisers to Thompson described his campaign as “broke” and said that without a shot of momentum from Iowa, continuing the campaign would be pointless and impractical. Thompson advisers expect Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee to claim the two top spots in the Iowa caucuses. The main suspense is whether Thompson will finish close enough to get credit for a surprisingly strong performance, coaxing him to keep battling, or will finish far behind. Thompson and McCain had a close relationship until the former actor entered the White House race. In 2000, the Thompson was one of just four Senate Republicans to endorse McCain’s presidential bid. At the start of this year, Thompson was even making phone calls on behalf of McCain’s campaign. Thompson has built little support in New Hampshire, so his endorsement would not mean a lot for McCain there. But Thompson has been near the top of most polls in South Carolina, which holds its primary on Jan. 19. So his backing there could help McCain capitalize on any momentum he picks up in the first two contests.
^I have found the whole Thompson saga very funny. . from the looming great white hope and heir to Ronald Reagan, breathlessly anticipated by conservatives . . . too a sleepy, Mayberry RFD campaign which couldn't be bothered to show up, which is now flatlining in Medicalert bracelet territory: "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!" Law prof stephen bainbridge, whose blog i used to read for his corp law commentary, would always toss in gratuitious odes to Fred! Not sure what he's saying now. A smart guy, who, uh, projected a bit with a dissatisfactory field of repub candidates. In the end, Fred Thompson 08 managed to make the 2004 Wes Clark campaign look like beatlemania. Surprising even to me.
Final Zogby poll out this morning has Hillary dropping to third. -- http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1411 Democrats: Obama 31% (+3) Edwards 27% (+1) Clinton 24% (-4) Richardson 7% (+0) Biden 5% (+1) Republicans: Huckabee 31% (+3) Romney 25% (+1) Thompson 11% (-1) McCain 10% (-2) Paul 10% (+1) Giuliani 6% (-1)
The 2008 election will be Obama vs McCain. And it will be close. Huckabee, Romney and Clinton will have no chance. (Not saying they would be bad at the job, they just have a lot of skeletons)
Hmm. I wonder who thought all that up for him. Then again, maybe one or two items were actually Fred's ideas.
im predicting obama and huckabee. for the democrats i would like to see edwards win - if its going to be anywhere for him its iowa. if he doesnt win there he should drop out and throw his support behind obama to try and defeat tradertexx's dream candidate hillary the neocon. ron paul will score double digits and ride the wave of momentum to even greater success in new hampshire. it doesnt really matter though, as the republicans will still end up nominating some chump a'la john kerry 2004 in order to throw the election to hillary the anointed one.
