Absolutely, but the dynamic of each game is so different because of his effect on the offense, the system, and the opposing defenses that the score, the tempo, the time of possession, and the momentum are all radically different for every game. So, perhaps the games DC lost for us this year, the defense wins you one of them, the running game loses you one of them, and the other one is a rout in which everyone either kicks ass (win) or sucks hard (loss). Perhaps a game that David was a non-factor in, this QB wins it with a critical late 4th quarter drive. All 16 of them are way different, in every respect. I hope we get to see just how different it is.
MY 100% IRON CLAD PREDICTION FOR 2007!!! We will improve but not make the playoffs. And somebody will b**** about us not tanking games for better draft position.
This is my hope too. I have no idea if Carr is really the problem or not (though I have my suspicions, obviously). But I want to freakin' find out. I want to see the rest of the team with a different QB and see if/how it looks different. We got one half of that this year (under obviously unique circumstances) and it looked so ridiculously different.
Look it gives me no pleasure to express my opinion in the manner I did, but IMHO it is what it is. One major reason for a change of address is for a fresh start for both sides. It's not Kuby's fault, he had a year to try undo a fraction of the BS that Carr dealt with and largely was not held accountable for. From the getgo, this franchise was set up for disaster. You would think maybe the Texans should have read the notes on Tim Couch and what happens if you dont have the foundation- the OL built right and the consequences that can and will result. So many blunders, so many idiotic moves, so much ineptitude with the draft boards so little time. But that all is old news ... To drastically improve the Texans must get more physical and consistent on D, while the O needs a more consistent flow and that comes from an OL that does their job play after play and game after game. You need workers in the trenches on both sides for your superstars to shine. The Texans need to try to find the few good parts of their team that are marketable and try to parlay into a glut of draft picks. Example: Carr and Dominick Williams for 2nd and conditional 3rd rounder. Babin and Wong for another 2 mid range picks. Just some ideas ... You may look at the 6-10 finish and think a few plays here or there and we may be playoff worthy. Remember, who is coming. If we arent set even somewhat on the OL, we will get killed by the Chargers. The Bengals will shred our secondary as we stand right now. The Ravens? Oh ****! The Saints will be no picnic either. LJ and the Chiefs? Bad news, man! So, we better get OL, DL, Safety and possibly an extra corner via FA or draft so we at least have a fighting chance. Right now, our record next year could be 3-13 or 4-12 without any significant upgrades and with Carr at the helm next year.
Yes msn, I see your side of the issue on this. The only problem is Carr's game was limited and clearly controlled and he STILL was screwing up games. Remember, our big games other than J-Ville, Kuby totally abandoned the passing game just so we could beat Oakland. That was the nearly fourth but credit Kuby for going against the grain and decide to be unconventional and give his other elements a legitimate chance to get a W. Indy and Clev we won with the running game that's sad! The aforementioned 3 screwups by Carr, the Dallas game, the @Tenn game and the NE game but there were plenty of honorable mention collapses or lack of making game changing plays. When was the last time Carr made a game changing play in the fourth quarter or on the last drive of the game? Clearly there are teammates that are hinting that they have lost confidence in Carr. Dunta and AJ to name a few. Kuby at the beginning of the season told that he needed to do his job so everyone else could do theirs. What more proof do you need? Even if we have the perfect world scenario can Carr lead this team into the playoffs? That's the question. I think not. All these points clearly explain why a change at QB must be made.
I never disagreed. I just said that given the same schedule and the same team for 2006, *everything* would have been so different that one can't reasonably and logically say, "we win that Tennessee game b/c DCarr doesn't lose it for us." It might have been a blowout the other way for all we know. But hell yeah, the whole season is different and probably better with a different QB.
This game should put fear into the heart of whoever is quarterbacking the home town team. I just hope Merriman doesn't kill anyone (and i'm only half kidding). The guy is flat out.....an animal. 17 sacks in 12 games. I mean who does that? Had he played in all 16 Strahan's record would have likely been short lived. This guy is only a second year player!!!
true. almost beyond comprehension. the locking in on one receiver, in my opinion, is reason #1 for this.
you're right; i had forgotten the dallas game; so he cost us three games this year, 2 of which, if we're being perfectly honest with one another, the team probably would have lost regardless of how carr played (at dallas, at NE). but we also lost three games this year where he was effective (NYG, buffalo, second tennessee game) but others failed. so i still think it's extremely unfair and biased to hang five losses on carr's mere presence here next year. you want to move on w/o him; fine - it's not as if you're out on a limb. but let's at least try and be realistic about it, cool? i don't think carr's exit is worth anywhere near five games, and to post as much indicates you don't think the rest of the team has glaring holes, which is quite clearly does. no, it actually looked exactly like the fourth quarter against the colts in week 2 (or the final two drives against the jets). the common denominator? the games were blow-outs at the time - it showed absolutely nothing.
this is how i know you and i have different expectations for where david carr SHOULD be. if this were a journeyman QB, i would agree those were "effective" games. if this were trent dilfer, i'd agree those were "effective" games. but i suppose my expectations for david carr were a bit higher than that. and i don't believe this team can win with merely a game manager any time soon.
max, my only expectation is victory; i do not care how it's achieved. the QB can throw for 300 yards or 3 yards - it makes no difference to me if we win.
are you sure about that? It seems most of the times you are throwing around every stat in the world defending Carr - except his win/loss record. (thats the impression I've come away with of you, don't have time to go searching and make a case of it)
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. If he did, he's just one of the few that make up a large percentage of users that got caught. He's still a maniac on the field that is nearly unblockable.
i don't measure individuals by how their team performs. and, lol - there aren't very many stats i could throw around this year that would defend carr. besides, i really don't defend carr, per se, as much as i defend him from the hyperbole that threatens to swallow him whole. i can't sugarcoat a maddeningly inconsistent season - he was at times very good; other times, good enough, and still other times flat-out awful. but when i see people post that his mere prsence would cost us 5 games next year... that's just ridiculous.
Let me rephrase that: he's just one of the few that got caught out of a large percentage of users in the NFL.
Thus the "under obviously unique circumstances" and the "I want to see the rest of the team with a different QB and see if/how it looks different." Amazing how it works when you read an entire post in context.
