Prediction: Yao will be ROY, All-Star, and MVP this year!

Shiiiiiit fool, mar1juana predicts lotto numbers for me. It's made me a millionaire. If only it didn't make me beat my wife, cause my liver to eat itself, tell me to sexually assault females at frat parties, and then tell me it's okay to drive home even though I know I'm gonna be all over the road and eventually hit some little kid...

...Oh, and it also tells me that Yao's gonna be All Star MVP and Finals MVP this year. It says it's not sure whether or not he'll get Defensive Player of the Year honors or Most Improved Player.

 

Hey, what is the hype?
Aren't we supposed to bring him slow?
I don't think Yao would care much of those individual award, especially in his rookie year.

The only that matters to him, Rox and the fans is to help the team wins.

 

you guys must have forgotten that the voting for mvp is done before the playoffs begin. consider then:


IF yao can lead houston to a top 2 seed in the west (win the division)

IF yao plays in 70 or more games this year

IF yao can finish at 20/10

IF yao holds his own against the big shark fish


...THEN he has an absolute LEGIT chance at mvp.



do you realize if those things happened, we would have one of the biggest turnaround seasons in league history? the leader of the team gets the accolades and - like it or not - the leader is/would be perceived as yao ming.

 

All-Star is like a sure thing for Ming. Who else the 1.3 billion Chinese people (I mean 70 million net surfers in China) going to vote? Shaq doesn't even stanad a chance.

MVP? It is too early to tell, but also too early to rule him out, just like it is too early to rule out Rockets in the western conference final this year. Look at the way the Rockets played Spurs and Kings lately, you know what we can beat the best of the west. The game against Mavs and Lakers do not count cuz Shaq was not there and Rockets were playing different games with Ming in Dallas back then.

Imagine the rockets, who missed playoff last year, suddenly headed for western conference finals this year.. . I must be dreaming 1 month ago. But now, I am only predicting the playoff.

 

Thats the good part...The last rookie to lead his team to a championship, was that kind of player, Magic Johnson,,He wasnt Rookie of the year and another player on his team was named MVP..But Magic won the most important award of all..NBA Finals MVP. Now thats the one we want Yao to win.........

 

Thank you verse. Its kind of annoying how everyone in this thread is saying that Yao has NO chance...they're probably the same ones that were bashing him at the beginning of the year. No one but you has any reasons that he could or couldn't be the MVP...HE CAN BE IF HE KEEPS IMPROVING LIKE HE IS. For christ's sakes people he abused last years MVP! Can anyone here make a case for ANYONE else that should be chosen over Yao? I'm talkin, without a doubt, better than Yao? I don't think so. Nowitzki? Yao's a better passer, defender, and shoots a higher percentage. Duncan? See SA game. Shaq? His only true competition...but since his return, still only a .500 team WITH Kobe so far. T-mac? Kidd? Iverson? Who is so much better than Yao? No responses so far. All I've heard is "noway" "impossible" blah,blah,blah. If you guys truly feel that way...then tell us why.

 

Thank you verse. Its kind of annoying how everyone in this thread is saying that Yao has NO chance...they're probably the same ones that were bashing him at the beginning of the year. No one but you has any reasons that he could or couldn't be the MVP...HE CAN BE IF HE KEEPS IMPROVING LIKE HE IS. For christ's sakes people he abused last years MVP! Can anyone here make a case for ANYONE else that should be chosen over Yao? I'm talkin, without a doubt, better than Yao? I don't think so. Nowitzki? Yao's a better passer, defender, and shoots a higher percentage. Duncan? See SA game. Shaq? His only true competition...but since his return, still only a .500 team WITH Kobe so far. T-mac? Kidd? Iverson? Who is so much better than Yao? No responses so far. All I've heard is "noway" "impossible" blah,blah,blah. If you guys truly feel that way...then tell us why.


Well, how about another Rocket? Don't you think Francis deserves some sort of consideration this year?

 

Yao is quite possible to become an All-star this year. But...... MVP... I feel you may be dreaming too much.

 

I wouldn't call it impossible, but the odds are slightly north of that. IF Yao keeps his FG % around 60%, IF he continues piling up double doubles, IF the Rockets finish #2 or #3 in the West, then he has a legitimate shot.

That's a lot of ifs, folks. In the meantime, let's enjoy the games and not worry too much about it!

 

He does. Steve was doing great in the beginning of the year, but fizzled out a bit. A lot of people around the league were saying that SF should be considered for MVP, but no word about it now. I think its obvious that if we are going anywhere in this league, our big man is going to be the one taking us there. Steve and Cat weren't going to get us past the elite in the league by themselves, they've showed us that for the last 3 years. If you had to start a team from scratch, would you start with Yao or Steve?

 

MVP??? HELL NO!!!

You've gone waaaaayyyy toooooooooo far...

There are many other players who are eligible for this year's MVP... like Paul Pierce for example...

Unless Rockets win the NBA championship this season just like Magic Johnson...

 

Would have to start with Yao Ming, but that is not how it is. SF was here first and is a veteran. The point being this, SF is leading this team and you cannot say YET that Yao is leading this team. Eventually, I can see Ming being a leader on this team, but right now he still trying to still adjust to things, but he is doing an absolutely awesome job of doing it.

 

OK, I am Yao Ming's fan, but I think sometimes we have to be realistic. MVP... NOT quite possible. Let's try to figure out the probability according to Rudy & other Rockets's Quote.

You guys still remember at the begining of the season. Yao was playing TERRIBLE. At that time some guys said that Yao did very good @practice, and if in the game, Yao could do what he exactly did in practice, then he could be great!

Now, Yao already got confidence. I assume that he is a quick learner, so he supposed to get used of the new rules during the practices and the games. Meanwhile, the Rox already got pretty nice chemistry with Yao. These three things are very important and it is fast for him to get it.

However, from now on, Yao must take time to build his strength and improve his technical skills. I believe these will take a little bit longer for him. I think next year Yao may have a chance to be MVP.

 

<blockquote><hr>Originally posted by verse IF yao can lead houston to a top 2 seed in the west (win the division)<hr></blockquote>Check
Larry Bird got them 1st seend by taking them from 27 wins to 61 wins.

<blockquote><hr>IF yao plays in 70 or more games this year<hr></blockquote>Check.
Larry Bird played in all 82.

<blockquote><hr>IF yao can finish at 20/10<hr></blockquote>Check.
Larry Bird was 21/10.

<blockquote><hr>...THEN he has an absolute LEGIT chance at mvp.<hr></blockquote>Now, assuming he *does* all those things Bird did...
21/10
61 wins after 27 the year before
and 1st place seed

Bird still had no shot, despite finishing #4, with 15 total votes. Jabbar was the runaway winner with no one close to Erving following, and I recall him and Jabbar getting all the #1 and #2 votes.

 

ROY, probably, but not MVP for sure. Of course, if he bring the Team to Finals and get the ring, I don't see it will happen this year, at least not so quickly. Calm down, don't let expectation to blur your sight, Yao is not the only good players, I would say he still needs to improve in a lot of aspects. I am not a doubter as well, but let's wait till Yao's game vs Shaq.

 

heypooponaparty:


if bird and jabbar gathered all the #1 and #2 votes, then there is no way that bird finished 4th. it's not possible. by the way, who else was in contention for mvp that year and what kind of season did they have? i'm guessing jabbar had a ridiculous year, and if he had not had that kind of year, bird would have won.

problem is, heypee, that i don't anticipate anyone in the nba having that type of dominant season this year. also, i'm not saying that accomplishing those things makes yao an automatic mvp. i'm saying that accomplishing those things gives yao a LEGIT CHANCE at the mvp... and it would.

 

Paul Pierce? You do realize that his fg% is 39%. 26% from 3. Sure he has 25/8/5. He shoots 21 times a game, that would make Iverson proud. Hell, Iverson's got a better shot percentage than Pierce does! MVP? Lets see how far he takes his team because any good rebounding team will kill his team with all the bricks he and Walker throws up. His defense isn't going to win any awards in the near future either.

 

You misread me, Jabbar and Erving took all the #1 and 2s. Bird had no shot and was 4th behind Gervin.

Thing is...your very first IF is far from happening. We are 6 games back as it stands in pretty much a 4-way tie for 2nd. Even *IF* we get the 1st seed like Duncan and Bird did, Duncan got 3rd place in MVP voting in route to breaking the NBA record in turnarounds with a 36 game swing from the previous year (which was really just getting them back to Robinson's usual win totals). imo, there are many more IFs this year than Duncan's very weak year.

IF Shaq does not turn around the Lakers
IF Minn doesn't go on a tear with Wally back to help Garnett
IF Webber doesn't win it, finally
IF the Rockets pass Nowitski/Dallas
IF Jason Kidd doesn't win it, finally (and he's scoring this year!!!)

Plus, as someone else said, Francis will hurt Yao's vote if we get 1st place, because Francis will take some of that credit.

 

Jabbar's stats were only a little better than bird's 21/10, Jabbar's were 24/11. But if I'm not mistaken Jabbar was a much greater defensive presense than Bird, was he not? Also with Magic and Bird coming out in the same year, didn't that have a slight dulling effect on Bird's season since Magic was great as well? I wonder what NBA player was named MVP the earliest in his career.

 

heypee:

given...as of now, we are far behind dallas. that said, dirk just suffered a high ankle sprain. i don't think they'll be maintaining the blistering pace they started with with him ailing.

as for duncan's year, i think voters realized exactly what you pointed out - that they were really just getting back to the # of wins they usually had with "the little mermaid".

shaq? given. if he turns it around, he's a favorite to win. problem is, will his health betray him again? i don't see lugging 400+lbs around a court as conducive to a long season.

minnesota? garnett? please! tell me you're kidding. garnett will not win it if for no other reason than he has proven he doesn't want the ball in crucial moments.

webber? see garnett, kevin.

kidd? maybe. and considering he should have won last year, he might get it now. however, voters may get used to kidd and just accept this year as yet another "ho hum" jason kidd spectacular season.

which brings us back to ming. most people expected him to be a freakin' scrub. most people expected the rockets to suck the fat one this year. but, if we come in 1st in the MW (which is 100% possible) and he does the things i listed, people will not be able to dismissed what has transpired.

trust me, if he does those things, he has a LEGIT CHANCE.