look dude, not only is this a masturbatory thread that could have been posted as replies to others, but it can be summed up much more concisely by a poster in a game thread last month who's name I unfortunately can't remember....\ "Rockets win is good Rockets lose is bad Fire is bad, too."
Actually, the point I am trying to make is, to some people, Rockets win is not good unless the two white rookies play a lot of minutes and Juwan Howard and Rafer Alston get hurt. I agree with you that the thread is absolutely masturbatory and could have been posted as replies to others. But after reading so many masturbatory threads bashing the Alston/Howard/Van Gundy and fawning over the white rookies, I feel like maturbating tonight. Thus, the thread. That's the story. I'll try to restrain myself next time.
Van Gundier, that win was worthless.... except for Tmac gaining his edge, Juwan playing like a 20-something, Rafer under control and Van Gundy being smart enough to pull McGrady and not worry. Otherwise, it WAS a bonehead game where the Rockets sucked, can't win a championship, JVG blew arse and John Lucas the third does not belong on the court. Forget the domination... it means nothing.
This the third time I have heard you bring up racial undertones and I just have to say that is so stupid on so many levels I can't even begin to explain. If you think the issue with your boy is racial you are an idiot. The NBA is predominately black. I am not saying their aren't a few racist who follow the NBA but lets just it's not a popular sport among the Aryan Nation. I can't speak for anyone else but myself but I can assure my dislike for Van Gundy knows not the color of skin. I want what is best for the Rockets and I donot feel that Van Gundy is. You on the other hand are rooting for your son and every step of the way find no fault in anything he does. Can I ask you one question do you honestly believe he is the best coach in the NBA?
I think he is the best coach for Yao and the Rockets. I honestly f!cking believe that. Well, next to Rudy...but we pissed him off to much to come back. anyhoot... Don't try to argue with me, because I won't.
right now, I would have to agree. You know I love good defense and hard playing hustle...and if he does nothing else, he inspires his teams to play their best at these particular aspects of the game. Not even the NBA talking heads that dont like him will diss his command fo the defensive prinicples of the game thats a damn shame hp while Im glad to see your increased activity of late, you're long on the quirk and short on the meat... I miss the in-depth AND quirky HP of yore btw... its long past the time for us to catch a game together. have a great new year bro....
I didn't say I wouldn't argue it...I just won't argue with Old Man Rock or Van Gundier about this. What? do you want to argue. What is up with your contructively friendly, "right now, I would have to agree" comment. lol...do you want some meat! well, it ain't happening in this masturbatory thread. always...you to. I'm thinking of upscaling for the AI/Melo/Denver game...do you want in?
This describles a lot of us here on the BBS...and yes....I said....US ! Van Gundier, you really should drop the racist undertones, that is pretty silly.....most of us want to see Novak play because he is a good shooter, and we want to see if he can develop into a solid rotational player.....the Rockets need shooting....really bad. V-Span, I want to see because of his creative passing, the Rockets (outside of Tmac) don't have that on the floor, also I think Rafer plays too much and you get diminishing returns with him when he plays 36+ minutes. Right now though I am happy at least JL3 is getting some minutes, he deserves them. Personally, I think JVG is an OK coach, but is not enough of a risk taker to win it all.....I would prefer Rudy (like HP) who was smart enough to ween Sam Cassell during his rookie year.....JVG needs to give the Rookies a bit of run......to get their feet wet....especially when they are players at our weakest position on the court...PG. IMHO, of course. DD
the way juwon is playing, i think he can be removed from the list. JVG has done a great job of preparing the team for the past 2 games. rafer could still be better, although he is hitting his floaters now.
Actually I feel JL3/head and Bill will form a solid backup SG and PG for this team. Too bad Bill can not develop quicker.
I seriously think Van Gundier has a major problem all of these supposedly "funny" threads u start are unfortunately NOT funny and they make u seem like a r****d (no offense) sometimes, you really make some good points and I have a lot of respect for your posts, but when u try to be funny and sarcastic or what I like to call, being a "smart-A' (again, no offense), u really screw up everything man. I still dont know what's going on, are u saying that u think JVG, Rafer, and Jho are great and u want to give every one of them a BJ, and u hate Vspan and Novak because their skin color is white. at the same time, u resent the fact that some (in fact, a lot) of Rockets fans believe that JVG, Rafer, and JHO suck (which is a valid opinion) and u want to supposedly (make fun of them) in a smart (IMO, stupid) way. and one more thing; u dont like it when some people bash Rafer and JVG and then the next day when we win, they jump on the band-wagon and they dish high praise to them. that being said, u find it not sufficient to illustrate your ideas by posting in already existing threads, instead, u find that this stuff deserve a whole new thread to draw the most attention to yourself. very very nice btw, I am not one of these fans u referred to. and there was no direct reference to myself in your post, but I still think this kind of post is really annoying. to start a whole thread for this crap is kinda ridiculous.
Actually, whiny as it might get, I still find Van Gundier's posts to be much more intellectual than some of the mindless bashing posts. At least his posts usually accurately hit the subject matter spot on. Smart-a$% or not, at least he still tries to be funny, rather than having something like "JVG SUX! FIRE JVG! ALSTON SHOULD BE TRADED!!! WHO CAN TAKE JUWAN OFF OUR HANDS?!?!" Oh well, to each their own.
I can understand the Rafer bashing way more than the JVG bashing. He finds a way to win and thats all that matters, I mean what more do we want? We're the best defensive team in the league...I guess that means nothing because we're boring to watch. We should then trade Yao for an athletic center like Howard and play Suns ball. Thing is that the way we're playing doesnt equate to a lot of wins in the regular season, but I dont think people are understanding how effective we will be in the playoffs. The effectiveness of a truly dominant center is shown greatly in the playoffs, and when we get there we'll be able to take out any team in the West save for maybe the Suns. I believe now that we are the hardest team for the Spurs to play. Wait till the Playoffs to hear the Fire Gundy! talks. Im glad Novak doesnt play...he chucked up a 3 in a close one a few weeks ago (forgot the game?) while being immensely covered. His somewhat decent 3 Point shooting do not make up for his atrocious defense. In the heat of the game, anyone would take Luther Head over him for a 3 pointer. Rafer I agree with because dude's inconsistent. We need a consistent point guard to win, and if we had one we'd be #1 in the West I.M.O.
and for those of u who think JVG is the best coach for the Rockets, I really dont know what makes u say that now I dont mean that JVG sucks or anything, I am just saying that he is NOT the "best" coach for the rockets, not even close to being so. I agree with JVG on a lot of things and I disagree with him on a couple of things. I think he does a great job in motivating his team, getting them to play defense, setting good plays, making adjustments, and many other things... I disgaree with the guy on a few things, for example, I dont understand why he limits the rotation to only 7 players, I hate the fact that he calls a play for every single position. it just drives me crazy! I mean, it's cool when coaches draw a play for the last position of a quarter or coming off a time out, but calling a play for almost every play is ridiculous. he should allow players more freedom, he should let them "enjoy" the game and "have fun" like he said in the newspaper today. players should run the fast break more often, and by players, I dont mean Luther Head running the break by himself and getting blocked. I am talking Skip, Mac, Shane, Chuck, and Head (as long as he doesn't handle the ball). and finally, I hate the fact that he doesn't play rookies. and here's the most important thing that many people disagree on; playing Novak and Span, or as Van Gundier racially referred to them as "the 2 white boys". I dont have a problem with Novakaine sitting down for now because he is still inexperienced and he needs to work on a couple of aspects of his game. but when it comes to Vspan, I think not playing him is just non-sense. the guy is no rookie, he played international basketball for significant period of time where he matured and understood the game better. his turnovers are something normal in the first 5-10 games he plays because he is not used to the intensity/speed of the NBA and he is not used to playing with his teammates. I actually think most of his turnovers are a result of miscommunication between him and his teammates (this is very true considering the fact that he loves sneaky and no-look passes). now if Yao, Sura, and Snyder were healthy, I wouldn't call for playing him. I wouldn't even mention his name. but after all the injuries, I dont see any reason for playing Lucas ahead of Vspan. JLIII had ONE (1) lucky game. I think he is a midget ballhog. that's what he is. everytime he touches the ball he keeps dribbling and dribbling for 20 seconds then he ends up either jacking up an off-balance jumper or driving to the basket and getting blocked. the guy has absolutely NO advantage over Span. Lucas is not a PG, a PG is a passer. Lucas can't pass worth a crap. his TOs are far worse than SPan's. his defense is mediocre compared to that of Vspan. his shooting is about the same. Span can drive 10 times better than Lucas. Span can pass 1000 times better than Lucas. now please, can anybody explain why I have to see JL3's midget ballhoggin a$$ more than Vspan. IT HAS TO BE THE COACH
