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Predatory time is here !

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jun 24, 2010.

  1. DaDakota

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    I agree that Beidrens is a big contract and it would certainly not be as a starter, or first choice.

    But he is available, and we do need a true center......I did like the Greg Oden suggestion....maybe we could get him on the cheap, that would be a decent risk to take.

    Either way, this thread is not about Biedrens it is about the team being predatory....and with all the other team's jettising talent....there are some deals to be had.

    Will the Rockets get in on those, or does it even make since to do so?

    DD
     
  2. saleem

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    I haven't seen him play over a long time. I'm not interested in getting him either. I'm surprised that he would have lost all his athleticism though despite the injuries. He used to run the floor so fluidly.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    He does, and finishes at the rim very well, rebounds well, and would be a decent back up center.

    The only issue as a backup is his contract, it is fairly onerous.

    DD
     
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    Obviously, the rockets should go after Lebron. We have the best avaiable assets, and should go after the best player.
     
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    if we give durant Jordan HIll or martin we are screwed. i would love to have jeff green ,but im sure it would cost almost as much as bosh, either martin or hill+picks would have to go and presti would draft very good with those picks.

    we may never beat okc if we deal with them unless we rip them off, which wont happen because presti is one of ,if not the best gm in nba

    i can see it happening now since the draft...everyone on here is in the mode of "lets make a trade just for the sake of shakin things up"

    bad idea imo. teams have gotten the memo on morey. he is blacklisted. thats why they wanted a KINGS ransom just to move up from 14 to 10 in the draft. teams know morey will screw them,so they are making morey give up more. bad idea to fall in that trap

    morey shouldnt get desperate. i dont know why all of you are saying "this is our year " or "win now"...dudes,yao is aging fast,and even if he does play he breaks down. we need a massive superstar on the level of bosh,wade, thats it...i dont even think joe johnson is enough to get us over the hump. redundant imo because you have to give to get,and we would just be "spinnin our wheels"

    the time to win it all was in 2005 with a prime tmac/yao..that failed and rockets waited years to long to get rid of tmac and yao. so now we are stuck with an albatross yao contract and no superstar(jeff green isnt a superstar)

    neither is gerald wallace. who you would have to give up martin or brooks,then you are left in the same position. spinnin your wheels trying to replace martin or brooks.

    only 2 solutions since no FA wants to play in houston. either tank or strike gold in draft.
     
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    we do, and cavs know it. but lebron dont care. proporov will offer to sell half of russia to lebron and lebron would be stupid to turn it down. and did i mention brook lopez is perceived to be better than yao in players eyes?
     
  7. brian_chapman

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    its something like 10 million a year. heinous.

    they would have to include randolph(which they wont) or ellis to help us out on that massive contract. something along the lines off budinger/jeffries/brooks for ellis/beidrins....even then I think we are losing the deal

    i say beidrins/randolph for hill/budinger/jeffries/picks and thats it
     
  8. saleem

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    What we really need is a center who can block shots and hold their position around the basket. We also need players who can challenge big players from making short and mid-range jumpers with ease.
     
  9. abc2007

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    I don't think so. If Brook Lopez is as half good as Yao, the nets wouldn't have one of the worst records in nba history. Proporov is rich, but his wealth cannot compare to a country. Plus, the rockets played very well against the cavs in past years, and I believe that impressed Lebron a lot.

     
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    I disagree. Your last statement is a hasty generalization. As much as people respect dwight howard, people respect yao for winning their head to head battle. The only issue with Yao has been durability and health which are serious concerns at the moment. But when healthy , Yao is the anchor of our interior defense, and a vital low post threat. Haven't seen a lot of brook lopez but some have even suggested that his brother robin lopez in phoenix has surpassed him.
     
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    these are the best names you could come up with to be predatory for?

    Perkins.. I don't think so
    Beasley.. no
    Hinrich... Heck to the no!
     
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    Weird, cause it looked to me like you just took a slightly above average SF , threw him into a lottery team last year and then tossed in a hobbling, broken down center whose best days are passed, and said they were NBA championship level.

    It's a long way from lottery land to the title - longer than most people here seem to realize.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    No Hayes, I was just talking about players that have been on the block.....sort of get a discussion going.....which never happens anymore, people don't want to discuss stuff, they just want to pick a fight.

    So, do you have anyone that might be available that they could get predatory for?

    Randolph, Ellis perhaps?

    DD
     
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    We have Kmartin already, so we dont need another guard with a similar contract.............
     
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    But if the ultimate goal is to acquire a superstar, you need to get as many quality assets as possible to give yourself that chance.

    If teams are giving them away, why not take advantage?

    DD
     
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    We have quality assets, at this point, its Morey trying to be cheap. Don't know for certain if I agree with that or not. I think when we do go for an upgrade, its going to be very expensive and I think we need to be more realistic in swallowing that. (IE moving up in the draft for Cousins or Favors)
     
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    Honestly, I think they aren't worried about mutts. They are going after the pedigree big dogs.

    I know I am in the minority, but I think adding Yao and maybe one more big to our team makes us a contender. Once I know who we have to trade in order to get that one extra player then I can talk with you about who we can be predatory after.

    I'm also not a big fan of Ellis (he seems like he needs the ball in his hands too much to be effective)

    Randolph maybe, but he, like Perkins wouldn't necessary play well next to Yao, and I think anyone we do pick up should be a complement and a replacement (does that make sense?)
     
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    I completely agree, if Yao is healthy I think we are a contender AS IS !!!

    DD
     
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    DD, dont tell me you fell for the predatory trick again? Thats funny.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    I think they were predatory with Hill, but figured they might be trying to get some of these give aways of NBA talent pre draft.

    DD
     

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