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Pre Existing Conditions Speaks To All Americans

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Oct 30, 2020.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Whatt did you prove naming a plague? People die?

    Its the one thing we all know
     
  2. Buck Turgidson

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    You used to be pretty cool. What the hell happened to you?
     
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    What is happening is that OP tried to bring up the ancient past as a way to justify that free healthcare isn't a citizen right provided by the government

    And when faced with archaelogical evidence that didn't suit his personal agenda is trying to deny history.
     
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    You forgot pestilence.
     
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    Is that a question? I wasn't researching that. I was more going down a rabbit-hole (of nothing else to do) researching whether there was more than Asclepeion. I came away believing their were physicians outside the "temple" hospitals, esp after Hypocrates died, making money for service, yes.

    Cities did buy their services, though.
     
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  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Archeology is about rights?

    You aint said about ancient Greek rights
     
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    The video doesn't really challenge the posters topic but I thought it was interesting all the different fossil findings throughout human history that give examples that ancient people were just as capable of being compassionate towards the physically and mentally disabled even if the disabled person offered nothing back in return besides companionship and/or familial bonding.

    I view healthcare as a basic right because we are at a point in human history, where if we prioritized the well being of every human American life and offered them healthcare, we could afford to do it. Not only could we afford to do it, it would also be more affordable than the current private healthcare industry we see today. What I almost never see brought up in healthcare discussions is all the tax money that goes to helping the uninsured when they need to go to the ER.

    Generally if you need to go to the ER, you're probably in a worse health condition than you would be if you had health insurance and if you do need to go the ER you better hope you have good health insurance anyways. Because if you have health insurance and notice a minor health issue, you can see your family practitioner and chances are high that physician will be able to diagnose the illness and treat it before it becomes a bigger one. This includes catching early stages of cancer before they enter stage IV and start amassing tumors in others organs of the body. Or early detections of genetic abnormalities that make someone immunocompromised at an early age. You want to be able to diagnose illnesses like that as early as you can.

    Compare this with being uninsured and letting a small health complication turn into an enormous life altering/ending disease that is only treated after an ER visit that the uninsured can't even afford, and therefore will be covered by tax payers in the most inefficient use of healthcare available.

    By offering universal healthcare, you are better able to track the spread of infectious diseases. People with health insurance, are of course more likely to use their health insurance, and get treatment for minor ailments that the uninsured would opt to overlook until they have no choice. Given the spread of Covid, being able to more accurately track the spread of infectious diseases would be pretty nice right now.

    I mean Texas has what the #1 or #2 economy in the the whole U.S., yet it's maternal mortality rate is worse than Libya. We can do better. We have examples with other developed nations who have come up with healthcare models that not only show their citizens live longer, but aren't swarmed with healthcare debt that causes thousands to file for bankruptcy, which again is covered through tax payer money inefficiently. And given that the super rich have many tax loopholes that allow them to circumvent paying taxes, it's the middle class who end up paying for other people's healthcare bankruptcies, and for what? To keep the existing private healthcare industry model afloat? We can do better.
     
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    I never swore at you nor did I insult you. But you should CALM down though you are getting heated. Not a good look for you
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You still think i give a **** how i look to you? We're on the internet bro
     
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    This looks like a thread where someone thinks they’re “woke” but is really deep in coma.
     
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    Yet the right to bear arms is real... But what if there were no guns?

    That is exactly as likely as there being no doctors
     
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    Again other countries have universal healthcare as a right. Why can’t the US?
     
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    You should care about how you act in front of people. If you want people to still engage with you on topics
     
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    Yes.

    Archaelogy studies among other things the human societies and the types of governance of the past.

    Human societies are based on the accepted human rights of the time.

    When you tried to bring up the past as justification that free healthcare was never meant to be a right archaelogy proved you wrong.

    Dont you feel bad that people who believed that Zeus turned into a cow to rape women, enjoyed free healthcare
    but you an educated man who lives in all of modern luxuries deny that right from yourself and your people?
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    @London'sBurning

    I have not even read all of that but was it that hard to take my serious post seriously? Thank you gor finally getting off that dumb ****. That's interesting. Healthcare is a unique animal in providing relief to human suffering, something extremely valuable in monetary terms but something we all value interms a life priority
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Archeology

    You talked. about one temple and still its just a temple. It was real medicine. Yes it was real to them but now medicine is real so comparing what wasn't real is illegitimate regardless. Hippocrates wasn't out out helping people lying in the street. He is known 2500 years later for a reason. Not helping the poor

    You didn't go into archeological specifics

    ***** read a post on a message board now he an archeologist
     
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    DnD II: The Wokening
     
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    Medicine is too real -- it's trill.
     
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