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Pre-Draft Camp Heights and Weights

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by ClutchCityReturns, Jun 14, 2006.

  1. Honey Bear

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  2. robbie380

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    not trying to be rude but....were you just making this up as you went along? long arms help you get your shot off and saying they cause you to be a bad shooter is ridiculous.
     
  3. jopatmc

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    It takes most long armed guys longer to get the shot up. Sure, we can pick out the McGradys who are the exception. But we would have to admit, even with a guy like McGrady, he blows hot and cold. But most of your shooters that can get the shot off quickly and accurately have a short windup from short arms. Just like pitchers in baseball. Big tall lanky guys usually equals long, slow windup. Short armed, more compact pitcher usually equals quick wind up and release. And it's easier for a shorter, normal sized pitcher to throw strikes. Your taller, ganglier pitchers tend to be wild.

    Go down the list of top 3 point shooters in the history of the NBA. Most of those guys are porportionate, no extremely long limbed. There's a few long players on the list but not many. Length is a great physical asset to have on the defensive end, as long as it is combined with quick feet. Otherwise it's useless. On the offensive end, length is a benefit when it comes to driving and reaching for dunks or alleyoops. But it is a negative when it comes to getting the jump shot off. Because there are plenty of long players in the NBA that can get up and extend to create diversion to those long armed shooters. There are even players that can block jump shots from those long armed type players. But the player that can get the shot off quickly, before the defense can react, is the player that can score no matter who is guarding him. Remember Abdur-Rauf, formerly known as Chris Jackson. He could get that jumper off on guys that were 6'8" and standing right in front of him. Because the time between when he picked up the ball, brought it up to shooting position, and released it was milliseconds. Iverson??? Same thing. He's accurate and he can get the shot off so quickly.

    Part of the secret to J.J.'s quick release is the fact that he has short arms. Short arms benefit his shooting.

    It's just common sense.
     
  4. Rockets Dynasty

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    Numerous sources including the Rockets said his wingspan is NOW 7-6.

    Also the USA today link posted said 90 inches, which amazingly is 7-6.

    Like I said, when you gain weight in your upper body, your wingspan increases.

    This is very common knowledge.
     
  5. Rockets Dynasty

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    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/rockets/2002-10-29-yao-chatter_x.htm

    • Wingspan, fingertip-to-fingertip:
    90 inches


    Remember also

    1. He grew anothere 3/4" in height, so his wingspan might have increased a bit.

    2. You gain upper bodu weight your wingspan increases.

    3. The NBA league office will also tell you that things like draft listings are not immune to typos.

    Remember suuposedly JJ Redick was 6-3 1/4 in shoes and 6-2 wingspan just a few days ago........
     
  6. m_cable

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    ESPN Insider has included the Body Fat% with their measurements. I tried to post their whole table, but the html looks messed up when I tried to post it. And you can just get those other measurements on the draftexpress site anyway. I've put the Body fat on the left to make it easier to read. When you put it on the right, the names are all different lengths so they look really jumbled. I've included Chad Ford's comments below as well even though they pertain to the numbers as a whole:

    Select players only:
    BODY FAT PLAYER
    8.0% Maurice Ager
    8.7% LaMarcus Aldridge
    6.3% Hilton Armstrong
    5.0% Ronnie Brewer
    10.0% Rodney Carney
    10.0% Mardy Collins
    4.4% Jordan Farmar
    10.0% Randy Foye
    5.7% Rudy Gay
    15.0% Aaron Gray
    6.8% Taj Gray
    6.8% Adam Morrison
    10.0% Patrick O'Bryant
    7.0% J.J. Redick
    7.6% Brandon Roy
    6.6% Saer Sene
    5.6% Cedric Simmons
    5.6% Tyrus Thomas
    12.4% Marcus Williams
    8.0% Shawne Williams
    11.4% Shelden Williams


    If you're looking for reasons to draft Brewer over Carney, here's some more ammo. Brewer clocked in at a superb 5% body fat against 10% by Carney. This is despite Brewer outweighing him by 19 lbs (223lbs to 204lbs). Seems like Carney might have trouble putting on weight in the league, if he's only 204 despite being at a less than ideal body fat.

    More and more the scales keep tipping over to Brewer. Literally in this case.
     
  7. ClutchCityReturns

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    Very nice to hear.

    The other day when they released the heights and weights, I noticed that Brewer came in at 223 and it worried me a little bit because his official weight was only 200 before. I did figure though that he added muscle, because none of his workout summaries had mentioned that he was out of shape. Knowing that he added 23 pounds and kept his body fat to an amazing 5% probably shows, more than anything else, just how dedicated this guy is to perfecting his game. That's the kind of guy I want on this team.
     
  8. Outlier

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    But man, Carney's coming for a 2nd workout, I hope they don't pick him over Brewer.
     
  9. ClutchCityReturns

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    I worry more and more everyday that I'm simply setting myself up for heart break by falling in love with Brewer at #8.

    One thing about Carney is that if he's been working out with TMac for a while, it seems like he would have the inside track on courting the Rockets front office, so if he feels he needs to come back for another workout to sell himself to them better than the first time around, maybe he's not the front runner after all. Personally, I hope not.
     
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    :D thats going to be one of my quotes somehwere hahahhahahh
     
  11. Rockets Dynasty

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    Actually Ronnie was listed at 217 last year.

    The 200 was from his freshman year, another reason you can't trust the weight listings, like Swift's "230"
     

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