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Pre-Brexit discussion thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. Commodore

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    all the MPs who don't represent the will of their constituents resigning is a healthy thing for democracy

     
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    Not that long ago I was convinced that the UK would leave with no deal. Now I'm starting to lean towards that there is going to be a second referendum with most likely the UK remaining. I don't see them leaving in an orderly manner with a deal acceptable to most of the UK and EU.
     
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    It seems like the best path forward would be a second referendum, take the EU deal or remain. And it seems like the political powers that be have no sense of urgency for a second referendum.
     
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    Not too long ago everyone seemed to think the EU would be falling apart and that Brexit would lead the way in other countries leaving the EU...I dare say the opposite has happened. Brexit has been such of a mess that I think other countries will think twice about doing so.
     
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    True it seems more like the opposition towards Brexit is delay and hope for a better deal. I don't think the UK will get a better deal but it is possible they have an indefinite delay and hope people forget about Brexit.
     
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    They can get a better deal.
    May's deal was based on the Uk's red lines, not the EU's. Corbyn has different red lines than May and of course Johnson.

    The soon to come general election will function as a second referendum and even if it is again a hung parliament at least temporarily it will give the boost to the government to pass their plans through.

    If Labour alone or in a coalition wins the elections they can pursue Brexit on a Norway style agreement as initially advertised by Boris Johnson.

    If the Tories win, then there will be no deal Brexit, because this will be the agenda they will run on.

    For an actual second referendum the majority of the Remain Parties must be significant to pass it through opposition and their own rebels.

    There are even some Lib Dems rebels right now who are opposing a second referendum let alone Labour rebels where there are like 50-60.

    So it will all depend on the will of the british public in November's elections, and there will be absolutely no excuses any more.

    There has been enough time for everyone to be informed of the consequences of Brexit with deal, no deal and Remain.


    Now if the Tories/Brexit party win, it is obvious that what is what the public want and such a suicidal nation can't be stopped when they are determined.
    It would be the FIRST time that the public would have vote for no deal, it wasn't an option on the referendum.
     
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    Hadn't seen this -- big trouble for Brexit.
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    The Guardian reported that [Uri] Geller wrote an open letter to British Prime Minister Theresa May, stating that he will telepathically prevent her from leading Britainout of the European Union. in Geller's words "As much as I admire you, I will stop you telepathically from doing this – and believe me I am capable of executing it."[51]
     
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    The EU is still slowly sinking. Rn their currency is weakening and governments like Germany are still dealing with increased right wing populism.

    Giving member nations flexibility to temper their economy has been a major complaint about the Eurozone. Ironically, uk never had to deal with that...
     
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    Boris Johnson may just have met his match: The voting public

    The test for the Johnson, who is fighting his first election as prime minister, is how he acts when the laughter stops.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1089436
     
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    Don't ever forget where the "Men of the People" like Boris actually came from:

     
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