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PRC Territorial Expansion

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. adoo

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    The PRC doesn't want military war; it owns $1.115.7 trillion of US Debts,
    ~~ 30% of the foreign ownership of US Debts.


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    one shudders to imagine what'd happen to the US economy should China decide to sell all of its holdings of US debts.
    even the pretend economist, Nook, would say it'll be bad, very bad.

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  2. Nook

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    Thank you for confirming to everyone not wearing red that you are a helplessly biased stooge.

    You certainly are thin skinned with false bravado trying to cover your sense of inadequacy.

    Want to know what would happen if China tried to sell all it's holdings of US debt?

    One side effect would be the short term and long term collapse of the Chinese economy. If things got really nasty China would be crushed into the stone ages by the West. Mind you, it wouldn't be good for anyone in the world... and perhaps China would handle it better than the West as the poor Chinese people have been oppressed and plagued by poor rulership for a long time.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The us is pretty corrupt as well. And many nations see the us as more corrupt. To put India in the same sentence as North Korea...I mean to put China is the same sentence...Really says a lot about how euro centric you are. It's disturbing.
     
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    Love it or leave it baby!

    Where is ATW? You miss your daddy to come protect you don't you?
     
  5. adoo

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    this is an update from India's de-facto state-controlled mediand

    the Indian troops have withdrawn from the DokLam area of Tibet​
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  6. durvasa

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    If the area is under dispute, I don't see how any country has a right to unilaterally build roads there.
     
  7. adoo

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    it is not under dispute

    India has been the unprovoked trespasser; in 1962, again in 2017

    when India was a British colony, as per the agreement entered into between Brit / China in 1890, that area was defined as Tibet Territory. Too, the signers (India's prime minister Nehru and others) of India's Independence from Britain, in 1949, had agreed to honor all agreements / treaties----regarding India---that Britain had entered into while India was a British colony.
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    Neville Maxwell covered the 1962 China-India border war as the South Asia correspondent for The London Times.
     
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  8. Deckard

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    According to China, anything that country claims is China's because the Chinese government says so. In any dispute, they have a host of talking points that come directly from an unelected government that stays in power by censorship and brutal oppression of those in China who disagree with that government.

    In any discussion outside of China about China that takes place where a significant number of people are involved either directly or as an audience, like ClutchFans, for example, one will see an immediate response from someone similar to adoo, who's eager to parrot the government propaganda. In other words, everyone who disagrees with the PRC is wrong and subject to attacks on their culture, their race, their government, their intelligence. If you agree with the PRC talking points about any topic? Then you are merely accepting "wise Chinese leadership." In my humble opinion.
     
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  9. durvasa

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    Who are you quoting here?

    The area is quite clearly still under dispute, hence on-going border negotiations between China and Bhutan. That one side thinks they have rightful claim over the territory does not mean there is no dispute, obviously.
     
  10. adoo

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    I suggest that you read the book by the British Correspondent who covered the 1962 India/China war

    that is the basis of my stand on the repeated encroachment by India
     
  11. hlcc

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    I'm not familiar with the intricacies of the Chinese & Indian border issues, but according to this article that I've read the road construction was on the Chinese side of the border/LAC and even the Indians didn't dispute this.

    http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-and-chinese-troops-has-sent-tensions-soaring
     
  12. durvasa

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    From your article:

    The border is not finalized, so I don't see justification for either side to build roads or other infrastructure up to the border as if it is already settled.
     
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  13. Nook

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    It IS under dispute and it has been under dispute.

    India recognizes the Bhutan's claim to the region.

    Further India claims that China's actions violate an agreement between India and China back in 2012.
     
  14. Nook

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    I suggest you read more before just parroting everything that the PRC says.

    Further, this isn't the first time that China has been involved in land disputes in recent times.

    Russia and China seem to think it is their national pastimes to encroach into other territories.
     
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    Honestly if you were China or Russia, why wouldn't you do this stuff? Thanks to Trump, the US has largely sidelined itself from these sorts of things. There used to be some concern about the US rallying the world against you if you started violating diplomatic norms. Now its largely open season to do these sorts of things.
     
  16. Nook

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    It started before Trump, and has been a cultural problem in that area of the world for a long time.

    Russia and China both know as long as they do it at the margins, that it isn't worth the United States getting militarily involved.

    As for Trump, he is the worst President in at least 150 years, if not in US history. He is rightfully scorned and mocked internationally and the American people elected him, so there isn't much defense to it.
     
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  17. hlcc

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    It's not unusual for countries to built things on their side of disputed territories. Japan & South Korea have dispute over Dokdo island, but that didn't stop the Koreans from building a barrack, helipad, etc on the island. India & Pakistan have dispute over the entire Jammu & Kashmir region, that didn't stop construction on either side. Japan, China & Taiwan have dispute over Senkaku islands, that didn't stop Japan from constructing various structures. India & China have several small villages on both sides of the LAC, the fact that there's no finalized border did not stop construction in those villages on both sides.
     
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    Our islands move.
     
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    Talking about 'encroaching into other territories', if you combine China and Russia together and times 100, you still get a small number trhan what USA had done and is doing.
    I wonder what the margins were when the United States just straightly destroyed Iraq and still invading Afghanistan.
     
  20. adoo

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    i wish that u'd stop lying.
     

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