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Potential vs Production

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by leebigez, May 1, 2003.

  1. bigboymumu

    bigboymumu Member

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    Exactly! Comparing Grif to players like Jefferson and Randolph is not fair. Those guys have developed into their bodies. Heck, scouts told Randolph to lose weight before the draft. Let's just be patient for one more year. It will happen. He is the perfect complement to Yao. (Although Randolph wouldn't be bad either ;))
     
  2. thumbs

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    I hope all of you Eddie Griffin doubters are as vocal with your apologies in the days to come as you are with your criticism at present.

    If 20-year-old Eddie fails to "make the grade," I'll freely confess my error in judgment. However, I expect the doubters to do the same.
     
  3. ima_drummer2k

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    You got a DEAL!
     
  4. Deckard

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    I think your right. It really puzzled me, but all I can figure is that the Rocks were planning to move Kenny all along, knew MoT was a question mark after coming back from injury and gambled that Griff would step up. He showed flashes of what he could do, but nothing remotely like consistency, as we all saw. Eddie would have been better served coming off the bench.

    Now, if we hold our cards at the 4 and see what happens next season it's gonna be a risk. And it will truly be a ***** if we can't sign Posey for a reasonable amount, only to lose him. They've got to get another 4 (role player) for the rotation if we're going to stand pat. We missed Kenny down the stretch. I'd still move Griffin in a package for an impact 4.
     
  5. leebigez

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    I hope so. All I'm saying is that it would be nice to see improvement in his game. As far as Cato concerned, he accepted his role and played hard in those 15 or so minutes he played, but he was nothing special. Griffin if he can get back to his rookies starters minutes, everyone will be content. One of the reason why GS picked Jamison over Carter is that when they talked to the UNC coaching staff, they said Jamison was a very hard worker. Remember Carter was the most highly touted one when coming to UNC,but Jamison is the one who left as player of the yr. It has everything to do with work ethic and talent. Like it was said , if Murphy can be a double-double type of player, then Eddie should be that or at least close to it.

    Its all about work ethic. You can take a look at 2 players, J. O'Neal and Camby. Both players came into the league in 1996. Camby was the #2 pick while O'Neal went like in the 20's. O'Neal rode the bench until his chance came up while Camby was a instant starter. If you look at their games one would think the older Camby with his atheleticism that he would be on the same level or better than O'Neal, but it isn't a gm in this league who would trade O'Neal for Camby. Why? O'Neal has gotten better every yr he's been a starter which has only been 3 yrs now. He went from a limited offensive player on the blocks to a diversified player with a money move. Camby has been injury prone, put on the weight but doesn't have a clue how to score other than diving to the basket or running the floor. Its all in the work ethic. Eddie can be as good as he wants to be, but he has to pay the price in the weight room and working with someone who can help him withhis post moves. If i had a yr as bad as Eddie had, he should already start working on his game,strength, and conditioning.
     
  6. alaskansnowman

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    Marcus Camby is just too skinny to become a dominant player. Just like you could never expect Shawn Bradley to "fill out", you can't expect Camby to fill out either. It's just his body type, and that's what I believe is the main reason that you don't see improvement. I remember hearing that Camby has been to a big man camp before, but the man's body sucks and he always gets injured. It has nothing to do with work ethic b/c I'm sure Camby works very hard yet there's not much you can do when you're body type keeps you injured and prevents you from filling out.

    And the whole "If Troy Murphy can do it, then so can Griffin" is crap. Murphy has an NBA body already, was always a hard-nosed physical player, plus has a better shot. You're assuming that Griffin is a better NBA player and he's not. Only thing that's better is his potential based on superior athletecism.
     
  7. JoeBarelyCares

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    Is Randolph in actuality just a sliver over 6'6"?
     
  8. leebigez

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    What a load of crap! Camby is bigger than Garnett,Rasheed,and J'Oneal. The difference is those guys put in the low post work, those guys got stronger, those guys wanted to get better while Camby did not. What was so rugged about Troy Murphy? No one ever said he had a nba body when he came in and he's still a work in progress. With young players,you want to see progression, not regression. You want them to eliminate some of the mistakes they made from 1 yr to the other. Don't try to use this as why Eddie can't get better.
     
  9. KeepJuaquin

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    Fine fine.....we will just wait another season...And then he gets busted again!!!!! :(

    I would even trade him for Zach Randolph.

    Hmm...I just hope he gets better.
     
  10. lost_elephant

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    i second that motion.
     
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    What's rugged about Murphy you ask... there was an article about him during his rookie season where it talked about how NBA players were gettin upset and retaliating at how physical he was playing.

    The only one that Camby might be bigger than is Garnett, and that point is moot b/c Garnett relies on his sick agility and overall athletecism which Camby simply does not have. Have you seen how skinny Camby is? You can't tell me he's bigger than Wallace or even J'neal for that matter. I cringe everytime he dives to the bucket b/c I envision him falling down and breaking in 2 pieces.

    While you say Murphy does not have an NBA body, I say his body his still more NBA ready than Griffin's was.

    I'm not using it as an excuse as to why Eddie can't get better. I'm simply proving to you, why you can't use it as a reason for why Eddie should be better than he is.
     

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