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Potential Rocket Profile: Kobe Bryant

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 31, 2007.

  1. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

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    you know battier, vspan, head, sura, 07/08 1st rounds picks.

    does that match salary wise???

    C Yao ming
    PF Chuck Hayes
    SF tmac
    SG Kobe Bryant
    PG Rafer Alston

    Bench: Steve Novak, Jake T., Dikembe Mutombo, Juwan Howard, John Lucas.


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    Sounds RIDICULOUS but in one a million years if Kobe said i want to go to the rockets. the trade would essentially be for 3 1st round picks, a 2nd round pick, a great role player, and an expiring contract.

    Still not sure you could win with a rafer alston in your starting line up. That would def be the best any three players on one team though since the mid 80s Lakers.
     
  2. thephatp

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    Just when I thought it couldn't get any more absurd, someone had to go and throw out a trade suggestion like this... :eek:


    BTW, I'd be willing to trade TMac for Kobe, even though I said I'd never give up TMac. ;)
     
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  3. pariah

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    I've been watching too much LOST, I guess...but I noticed a clue: that he is giving the same hand gesture that Adelman gave in his Press Conference. They are both showing an open palm with all of their fingers extended. I think that it means that they are both secretly behind the plan to get KB to the Rockets. And somehow, Clutch is in the loop, but I've not figured that part out yet...
     
  4. Omer

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    The Kobe with Rockets jersey looks SO UNBELIEVABLY out of place to me. Doesn't seem to fit right visually or realistically.
     
  5. tested911

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    Deckard your on the money with that one... I for one think it just looks Odd seeing him in a Rocket Uni but that doesnt hide the fact that he can can help this team..
     
  6. MR. MEOWGI

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    Satan can help you to. All you have to do is ask.
     
  7. morpheus133

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    I dont like Bryant based on his media image (haven't ever met his of course so that is all the fans can really base their "like or "dislike" on). That being said he is an amazing basketball talent and it would be stupid to not aquire him if the option were made available. Honestly though there are probably better options for the Lakers from other teams than TMac for Bryant. Yao for Bryant would get them listening, but I doubt Les would do it.
     
  8. clutch citizen

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    it might be highly unlikely that Kobe gets to Houston, but you can be VERY sure that Les Alexander will try everything in his power to get Kobe to Houston. Let's not overlook that Les seems like a business man first....imagine the extra revenue that Kobe would bring. Yao is already a major money maker...Yao + Kobe = $$$ to the tenth power.

    The "experts" say the Lakers should go for youth/draft picks. If they go into an all out rebuilding stage with just young players with potential...there's a good chance they could be the modern day clippers for a while. If that's the case, ticket sales may go down....how do you go from Kobe to potentials and still sell the same amount of tickets in LA?

    Tmac, future picks, and Luther Head for Kobe and fillers. Spanoulis and/or Novak should be included as well. The Lakers get Tmac to ease the potential hit in ticket sales and get the draft picks and/or youth that "experts" say they should get.

    I'm not saying Kobe for Tmac should be done, personally I don't care who's at the 2, I'd be equally happy with both.
     
  9. Storm Surge

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    kobe looks SWEET in a rockets jersey
     
  10. Sherlock

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    A Kobe Breakup Would Be Best For Houston AND Los Angeles?

    Realgm.com: Authored by Dennis Silva II - 31st May, 2007 - 1:11 pm

    Bryant wants to be traded; gone, removed, exiled from the Los Angeles Lakers.

    Uh, whoops, scratch that – nevermind, Kobe wants to stay.

    Whatever the mercurial Lakers superstar desires, this much is known – for better or for worse, his days in Los Angeles are numbered.

    Whether his tenure ends this summer, or in 2009 (his opt-out year), is unsure. But it’s fairly safe to bet that Bryant will not finish his career as a Laker.

    He doesn’t trust the higher-ups. He has no confidence in his teammates. He feels betrayed and sees no light at the end of the tunnel.

    Does that sound like someone who is pleased with his current (and future) situation?

    "I would like to be traded, yeah,” Bryant told 1050 ESPN Radio (New York) on Wednesday. “Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there's no other alternative, you know?"

    When he re-signed with the club three years ago, following Shaquille O’Neal’s tumultuous exit, Bryant was told by Laker officials that the team would build a contender around him.

    He was told they will win. He was told they’ll compete.

    Instead, he feels the Lakers are rebuilding. Los Angeles has had plenty of opportunities to give him help. But the likes of Baron Davis, Carlos Boozer, and Ron Artest, among others, bypassed them as the club’s efforts to acquire such assets were lukewarm at best.

    "They (Lakers) obviously want to move in a different direction in terms of rebuilding," Bryant said in the same interview, citing the Clippers and Bulls as viable options at the time. "Three years ago when I was re-signing they should have told me they wanted to rebuild."

    Bryant lightened his words a bit later Wednesday afternoon, telling ESPN’s Dan Patrick a different story after speaking to Lakers coach Phil Jackson earlier in the afternoon.

    "I'm so tired of talking," Bryant said. "It's tough. I always dreamed about retiring as a Laker. I just hope and hope that something can be resolved. Something can be figured out. Just something so I can stay here and be in this city and be with the team I love. When Phil and I spoke, he was optimistic and determined that we'll both be back," Bryant told Patrick. "Phil is somebody I listen to. I lean on him a lot. He assured me things are going to be OK. Things are going to be all right. Don't go full bore just yet. Take a deep breath and let us work these things out and everything will be all right.”

    Either way, it’s apparent that bridges are burned, especially after Bryant made public earlier this week that it was Jerry Buss, not himself, that was solely responsible for O’Neal’s dismissal.

    So what happens now? Well, both parties will make every attempt to kiss and make up. After all, Bryant sells tickers and puts fannies in the seats, and no other city will embrace the embattled star like Los Angeles.

    But it would be best if both went their separate ways, especially now when Bryant is in the midst of his prime and is, arguably, the best player in the game, and the best scorer in the league. While Bryant boasts a $9.5 million trade-kicker that will be added to his total contract value and absorbed by any club that acquires him, he’s undoubtedly worth every penny.

    For clubs desperate for a superstar player who lives and breathes the game, and who would give his right arm to win, Bryant will not only make up that deficit in ticketing and merchandising sales, but in wins and a chance every year at contending for a championship.

    If the Lakers want to get equal value, they need to look no further than Houston. While it would not be smart to trade Bryant to a Western Conference rival, it makes the most sense.

    Rockets guard Tracy McGrady would still put people in the seats, and brings about the same amount of flair and thrills to the court as Bryant. The Rockets could also throw in forward Juwan Howard – who Jackson has been interested in as a mid-range shooter for the 4-spot in his triangle offense – and guard Bob Sura’s expiring contract.

    If the Lakers cooperated by sending free-agent bust Vladimir Radmanovic to the Rockets, it would work out for both clubs.

    Houston adds a dominant player who doesn’t have to defer to Yao and who can be counted on in clutch time, as well as a long-range shooting forward to complement Rick Adelman’s fluid offense, and the Lakers get a star athlete in return, as well as a capable role player in Howard, as well as salary cap room.

    For McGrady, it’d be his shot at complete control over a team, with a plethora of sidekicks. He’d be welcomed to shoot and create at any time, and has help in Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, Andrew Bynum and Jordan Farmar.

    Kobe would be given what he needs most at this point of his career – a change of scenery, and a contending team that has all the pieces to thrive in the West.

    However, in all likelihood, Kobe probably stays.

    Aside from death threats from Bryant himself, Mitch Kupchak and the Buss’s would be scorned for life for being the ones responsible for letting Shaq AND Kobe walk.

    Even if a breakup would be best for both.
     
  11. rocket3forlife2

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    Man that pic looks so good.
     
  12. BEXCELANT

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    Well it's over Kobe stays but guess what....the Lakers now have to trade very disgruntled player off their team and which of Kobe's teammates wouldn't be disgruntled after Kobe basically called out the rest of the team as being weak and not the right players to take the franchise to the next level. I can just hear Lamar Odem and Andrew Bynum cussing out Kobe behind closed doors.
     
  13. Streets 01

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    I agree with Clutch's analysis that T-Mac's weaknesses are Kobe's strengths.

    However, Kobe's weaknesses (team play, unselfish ball, etc.) are T-Mac's strengths. Given that, I'll take McGrady. Kobe is the better individual player. T-Mac is the better team player. Mac literally elevates those around him, while people who play with #24 don't see any real improvements.
     
  14. GoatBoy

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    "Sweet", as in two snaps, a twist and a kiss?

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  15. doublehh03

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    kobe will most likely STAY FOR THIS YEAR, but the team looks to be in no better shape. so he will opt out and walk next yr if the team is still 1 and out.

    he wont finish his career as a laker for sure.
     
  16. doublehh03

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    thats why u need to pair him w/ a superstar on the level of his caliber. when paired w/ shaq, shaq was more dominant than him so kobe didnt need to make him better.
     
  17. tigermission1

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    You mean the Hit...err...Adelman salute?

    Fixed that for ya ;)
     
  18. weslinder

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    Simple question: Does McGrady have a no-trade clause? If so, why would he waive it to go to the Lakers?
     
  19. CriscoKidd

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    There is no such thing as a no trade clause in the NBA.
     
  20. Dreamshake

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    If you really really really want Kobe in Houston, offering TMac is Never Ever Ever Ever Ever going to entice the LA brass. Tmac + Battier + Sura's expiring Contract might get you close. (Dont even know if it works financially)


    What your going to have to throw at the Lakers is Yao Ming. Even then, I think that the NBA, might of seen Yao stuggle enough in the playoffs to wonder if he is even on a Top Tier level anymore. If LA is going to part with superstardom (not counting Kobe absolutely forcing their hand) they are only going to bring in a money making younger top tier replacement.
     

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