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Post game- Cam Whitmore

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, Jan 1, 2025.

  1. thegary

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    I had no problem with cam’s post game comments. He is a kid.
     
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  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Lol sliding in Reed there as if he's getting any playing time either.... why be dishonest? I just don't get people like you who feel like they have to do **** like that.

    It's not effective and you just ruin your credibility with that BS.
     
  3. MC31B

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    The fact that Cam hasn't filmed himself humping a teammate and then go to knock up a 38 year old makes me think he has a lot better head on his shoulders than at least one other member of the team.

    He will be fine. And he is right that he should be getting more playing time.
     
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  4. Thrilla

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    Remind what we level have you coached at? Áre You a profesional scout? If you áre than your opinión would be more valued than mine as a fan of 25 years. We áre both just fans of the Rockets though.

    You can disagree with someone without doing it in a way that makes you look like a d******d. It's really not complicated, man. People would also take you more seriously if You omit the petty little jabs at other pósters.

    It just come across as you putting others down to make yourself feel good about yourself, which is sad.

    Take care.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    Dude your basketball opinions suck if you think Cam has shown "more" than Green. It's okay also. It's not like you are supporting MAGA politics and being joyful about deprting 20 million humans or something absurd because of stupid basketball opinions. I have stupid NFL opinions. It isn't a big deal. It is if you take a lot of pride in your basketball opinions I guess?
     
  6. Thrilla

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    Appreciate the post.

    Only addressing Jalen's red flags - Which of these has he improved considerablely? You didn't mention defense, which I would agree he has made great strides forward, but the other concerns, not so much, especially after 3.5 years. Where he has been given free reign to shore up his weaknesses unlike Cam. Give Cam the same opportunites and let's see if he can improve on his weaknesses.

    We can revisit this is a few years.
     
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  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Can't expect too much from him, he's probably the second most ridiculous Green fanboi. You shouldn't take people like that too seriously.
     
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    You don't have to defend your boy everytime he is mentioned. He hasn't played well, I wasn't sneaking anything in. If I was Cam, I'd be frustrated being sent to RGV in my second year, while a rookie not playing well is getting minutes on the big club. It seems that the only guy you think has to earn his minutes is Jalen. Nothing dishonest was said, that's just your response to anyone that disagrees with you. Like you are the self-appointed protector of the truth. LOL.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    You don't have to be dishonest... but here we are. I guess you just aren't capable of being better than that. It's fine, it's my fault for expecting more than you are capable of.

    Cam and Reed are essentially in the same situation, stuck on the bench watching scrubs screw up without consequences

    FVV has a 45% TS% over the last 10 games... and they both get to watch him play 42 minutes while being terrible.... but if they ever miss a shot, they are banished to the bench
     
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  10. fchowd0311

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    You were a coach? I feel sorry for your players because obviously you don't understand finite energy. Probably ran some of your guys to the ground without this understanding.

    Look at the most efficient high volume three point shooter under Ime in his one year in Boston. Ask yourself why its so low.

    Then understand we are asking 22 year olds who haven't had years of NBA conditioning under their belt being asked to not only be high usage self creators on offense which requires energy but also expending a elite level of defensive effort that usually young lottery picks aren't asked to do because usually they are on bad teams not being asked to expend so much energy on defense. You think 22 year old Booker would be averaging what he averaged on the 20 win Suns in that point of his career if he was playing under Ime on a team expected to win 50+ games in the West?
     
  11. Thrilla

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    Ahh, man. I said I think Cam has more potential than Green and not that he has shown more. Big difference. We cannot say for sure because Cam has not gotten the same opportunites as Jalen.

    I do support Trump. As someone who fought for this country, I absolutley believe in Americans first, but this is not the debate forum.

    You're hopeless if you cannot comprehend the way you post here is douchy.
     
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  12. fchowd0311

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    Honestly me coming off as douche here is not something I care for like you don't care for being associated with a dude who said "migrants poison the blood of our nation(literal Hitlerian rhetoric)"

    You think I'm a douche? I guess that means something to me?
     
  13. daywalker02

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    Care to explain the background how you got invested in the whole Sheppard affair....maybe we can understand it a bit.
     
  14. Thrilla

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    It's crazy how they act like 4 year olds throwing a temper tantrum whenever someone critisizes Jalen. All I said was IMO Cam has more potential than Green. That dude is having a mental breakdown over it.
     
  15. dobro1229

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    Maybe starting FVV over Cam makes a big difference in those two games... maybe not.

    However if I am Stone, my objective to not have to trade someone who is going to likely need to get out of town if things don't change is something to consider in my thinking or strategy. Of course if Ime is like hell no, fire me before you enforce that I'd of course back off of the idea, but if I'm in Stone's shoes I have to think about proposing some ideas to shake it up, and better make big roster decisions if I can without overtly impacting the chance to make the playoffs or making things worse in the locker room if that is potentially an issue Ime brings up.

    I'm sure though with injuries Cam will have a chance at some point to start a few games regardless, but if I could start him now vs having his agent come in a few weeks and say he's going to pout and stay home waiting to be fined until you trade him.... I have to at least think about putting him in a scenario to let reality hit him in the face in clearer terms where everyone benefits.

    It's also one of the downsides of having a team without a true superstar too. There's nobody that has that sort of pedigree that can either whoop his butt in practice or have that superstar respect to sit the youngsters down and tell them to respect the game, and STFU.

    It's like having a puppy that really needs to be around a senior alpha dog in order to put it in its place so it can be a more balanced dog in the future. Basketball, and sports in general is weird like that. You might have a great dog, but letting it jump on everyone, and sit in your lap can lead to your puppy becoming a freaking nightmare, and other dogs can train puppies way faster than a human can.
     
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  16. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm not invested in Sheppard... or any player on the Rockets.

    I want the team to win... and not just meaningless regular season games. That's my interest in this.
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    Buddy you are the one who started moralizing your posts by crying about being offended because I was brunt with calling your opinion stupid. If you take that much pride in your opinion on Cam, that isn't on me.
     
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    I've agreed on the FVV point time and time again. What we do disagree on his Reed's ability to help this year and that I think he needs a stint in RGV. Cam and Reed aren't in the same boat. Cam played well in spurts his rookie year and in the last 4 games has played well when given a chance. Reed needs to go to RGV and get his confidence, just like Cam. If he comes back and makes the most of his minutes then he deserves more of a chance, just like Cam deserves more of a chance.
     
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    It would be like Celtics fans arguing Tatum vs Brown. Very odd given that basically anyone over 6'4" in the NBA can play essentially 4 positions.

    Jalen is also operating more and more as a lead guard anyways so it's not unheard of for him to eventually be in the backcourt with another natural 2/3 at some point. FVV is hardly a PG most of the game even though when he's off ball I know he is vocal and sort of a coach on the floor.

    If people are excited about Cam that's great. Doesn't mean anything about Jalen's future IMO. The big question mark for me is always when someone is going to make it painfully obvious that they should be starting over Brooks or FVV. IMO Amen is the closest one making a case to start at the expense of Brooks but he's been pretty good, and shooting the ball well enough to hold even Amen off.

    Cam has a tough case to be made, but it wouldn't be unheard of for a prospect like him in year 2 to try and force a trade, and for the GM to decide it's better to move him now than have a prospect ruin their value on the bench for 2 more seasons if you can get something of value to have in trades that is more valuable than a sulking declining value prospect.
     
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    Very simple answer: You don't reward that type of behavior. The other players are watching.
     
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