did you see how al jefferson dunked on yao? it wasn't a straight up dunk, he basically took it to yao's chest and then dunked it on him. if you're a ref, who are you gonna lean the calls to? a guy 8 inches shorter and 55 lbs lighter taking it to a bigger guy or the bigger guy? yao just has to do that in return. get that damn ball. take one dribble and attack his man the same way and he'll get calls. you dont' expect to get calls from guys trying to strip his ball... those a ticky tack fouls that great big men rarely get. as long as yao is aggressive, he will get his calls. it applies to EVERY player. look at who leads the league in ft attempts? it's DEVIN HARRIS. not kobe. not wade. not bron. it's freakin' devin harris. sure stars get calls, but if you're aggressive, you'll get calls. let's be real, from an "objective" standpoint, yao should have gotten a lot of calls. but from a refereeing standpoint, you're not gonna give foul calls to a guy who gets pushed around by a guy 8 inches shorter and 55 lbs lighter. that just doesn't make sense.
again, who's the aggressor? you do not let a guy 8 inches shorter and 55 lbs lighter do that to ya. if shaq let that happen to him all the time, he wouldn't get foul calls either. he would try to foul the heck out of jefferson before letting him dunk on him or retaliate on the other end. it's easy to complain about the refs. but the refs don't care if yao does great or bad. if anything, they want him to do well b/c he's one of the faces of the NBA. they don't have anything against yao. when yao is aggressive, he gets calls. when he attacks the defender, he gets calls. that has been proven time and time again. watch devin harris on monday. watch how he just forces the issue and just forces the action when he penetrates. he'll get a few offensive foul here and there, but the point he's trying to make is: i'm aggressive and nobody can stop me. and this doesn't just apply to yao, it's also tracy. when he settles for jumpers, less calls. when he makes a point to drive a lot -> more calls. that's basically it: FORCE THE REFS to make a call. you do that by being aggressive.
you want those kinds of fouls? tell yao to be a perimeter player. if you follow the history of the NBA, know this: big men are officiated DIFFERENTLY.
It took Al Jefferson 31 shots attempt to reach 34 points, hogging anyone? In an internationally matched game Al would have fouled out early in the 4th but this is NBA where bull**** happens!
I still remember one game Rockets played Magic. On one possession, Yao was tackled and threw down by DH in front of the referee, and Yao was called foul. On another possession, Yao was in front of DH, stopped at the FT line to protect a fastbreak from teammate. DH was going after the play, ran into Yao from BEHIND, pushed Yao with 2 hands, again, Yao was called foul, while NO player or action were to be found within 5 feet from them under the spot light. Please use your video archive, game reports, google, or anything you can find, find me another example, that a 20 points all star big man was officiated that way. Wait, find me an example for such blatant BS calls on any 15 points rookie. Sure, that's great example how refs did a pretty job, and how Yao is soft p***y, and how fans complaining are clueless Yao fans and cry babies.
You spent that much time and effort to say that officials are NOT "objective", and from the point of view of a Rockets fan like yourself, it makes perfect sense.
you can also bring up a game where yao get 19 fts and go to the line at will (ala 2 games earlier where he had 35+ pts). look nobody is saying yao is officiated fairly b/c he's not. but we all know that. yao knows that. he has to learn how to deal with it. and he is doing a great job. like i said, devin harris leads the league in ft attempts. this is a guy who is simply a decent player before this year. the refs will reward the aggressor (most of the time).
how can you be objective when the NBA game is going at a very fast speed. every charge/block calls is basically "subjective." if you really want to call a foul by the rule book, there's basically a foul EVERY possession. that applies to every sport. and the point is, how is complaining about the refs gonna help you win games? win in the playoffs? win championships?
No, i am not talking about any biased calls went this way or other way. That's why I challenged people who say refs usually do pretty good job on Yao, find me A SINGLE EXAMPLE of any other regular 15 points scorer, was called fouls with such blatant criminal fashion in ONE SINGLE GAME. I described that 2 fouls called on Yao against DH pretty clearly. Find me a similar case. Please save the "there must be plenty, but I can't remember or describe any one" explanation. BTW, the refs' job description does not contains anything about rewarding. Let's be real here, Yao is Chinese.
am i the only one that when i saw aaron brooks had 10 rebounds, i kept refreshing the box score page. lol
tracy mcgrady got offensive foul calls on him by freakin' ak47 3 times in teh playoffs last yr. one was in the first 2 games and one was in game 3 and one in game 5. the most blatant one was ak47 HOLDING tracy in front of the refs, tracy tries to get away and tracy gets called for the offensive foul. does the mean the refs are biased? i don't think they are b/c tracy still averaged 9 ft attempts in that series. i don't know what goes through a ref's mind. but i'm sure there is no ill will towards yao my friend. and oh yes, bring race into it. shaq has said time and time again throughout his career he is the most mistreated player in the history of the NBA. is it b/c he's black? do you know how many offensive fouls he gets for just running into a guy? it is what it is. once you start complaining (and bringing race into it), well, i don't want to go there.
But if Yao play aggressively like you said without call, it will hurt the team because there are so many TOs. The game is a team play not one on one. D. Harris now is one of the babies in the league because he is the major scorer of the Nets. No one can change Ref's mind except Stern.
Like you said "every charge/block calls is basically "subjective."", does this means if a ref don't like some players he can do anythings? Why do we still need basket ball rule?
yes, stern wanted the spurs to win ALL those rings and get those 6-7 million people to watch instead of having the lakers, knicks, celtics in the finals where they can get 14-15 mil to watch the rockets have yao ming that would pull international viewers, tracy to pull in young fans... so if anything we should be getting the calls. why don't we? yao usually settles for fadeaways, tracy settles for jumpshots, scola settles for soft layups... there's a reason the lakers lost last yr: lamar and pau gasol were SOFT AS TISSUE. we want to feared and get the respect of the refs: be aggressive. hell, we're averaging 25 ft attempts per game, up from 22 last yr.
yao is taller and heavier than ANY player in the league (save shaq for the weight). so, because of that, are we saying things like a 2-handed push is legal against yao since he's bigger? are we saying when someone hits him in the arm and yao doesn't budge since he's huge and hence it's NOT a foul? all this have nothing to do with "aggressiveness". refs' job is to be fair. get the "reward" or "punish" stuff out here. this is exactly why the nba has constantly seen THE worst officiating in all major sports. yes, big men are whistled differently. no question about it. the question is, is this right? on top of that, yao has been whistled differently AMONG BIGS. the reason can be debated, but it is a fact no question.
well that's too bad. but refs only have certain targets: the bad guys (sheed...) yao is a good guy. he rarely complains and always listens to what the refs have to say. i have no reason to believe they have anything against yao. usually when yao tries to get an explanation from the refs, the conversation is always cordial. this is something the team has dealt with for a long time (v. the refs). the team understands it. the only way to overcome it is BE MORE AGGRESSIVE.
you just explain the reason. play a pick up game of basketball yourself. if you call every touch in the post on the big guys, they'll kick you out of the gym. or watch the NFL. you barely breath on a QB -> a 15 yd penalty. but the holds/grabs on the lineman are rarely call, but happens every play. is that fair? NO, but does it keep happening? yes. so it's not just the NBA.
it's time to trade rafer and head for a back-up pg so we can sign deke, brooks is ready to be our rondo with a jumper
It just depend on home court or guest court. We can be aggressive on home court, but it will be a offensive call or To if we still are aggressive. This is NBA. There is a thing called home court priority. I like our today's game plan. We made many 3 pts and got the win. It is not related aggressive or others. We just find a way to win a game.
