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Post-Game Analysis: Nuggets 107, Rockets 94

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Oct 30, 2010.

  1. OremLK

    OremLK Member

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    And ha. Lowry scored 1 point on 0-7 shooting, with only 3 assists. So I'm not sure this is the night to fellate him while you bash Brooks.

    Granted, the whole team played like garbage except Scola and maybe Yao, so I guess this is just one to forget about...
     
  2. nodstonothing

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    Absolutely correct. I've been saying for months that people need to stop blowing Morey every five seconds when he has yet to get any real results on the court (one playoff win doesn't count as success). He is good at finding undervalued role players, and now we're seeing where undervalued role players get you. You need superstars in this league to win. Morey did so much to get all these assets, blew his window to make a trade using those assets, and now we're stuck with a bunch of redundant one-way players.
     
  3. Kojirou

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    Out of curiosity, when was this window?
     
  4. magnetik

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    save us. eric dampier :eek: :(
     
  5. nodstonothing

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    Morey has made Adelman's job impossible this season. You can't play 10-11 guys every game, no team does that because it ruins cohesion. If Adelman played the "better options," then other options would be sitting on the bench. This is why teams don't assemble rosters like this, they keep it to 8-9 guys with a star or two, not 10-11 role players/borderline stars. You can't play everybody. No matter who Adelman plays now, people will complain because a good role player will still be on the bench not getting minutes. It's a recipe for lack of cohesion, upset players who don't get the minutes they want, and at the end of the day it's obvious from the first three games that we lack a leader/star type player.

    Morey/management has also handcuffed Adelman with this 24 minute Yao rule. You can't properly manage a game with limits on your supposed star player, especially one like Yao who changes the entire tempo/offense when he is in. It throws not only all the game's rotations in chaos, it confuses the players because they have to keep changing how they're playing depending on if Yao is in or not.
     
  6. nodstonothing

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    His window was the offseason. We can't constantly put asterisks by everything Morey does. He has to be judged off the results. He put a plan in place to gather assets so he could get a star player during the offseason, he said that many times. That plan has failed and now he should get his fair share of heat for the bad start. The roster he put together is 0-3. That's the bottomline.
     
  7. tofu--

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    While this may be somewhat true for the majority of other NBA teams, you have to keep in mind the professionalism of guys on OUR team. Battier and Hayes would most certainly defer to better options as long as we keep winning. I can also think of multiple other players that would take diminished roles without being a locker room disturbance. The only one not really on board IMO is AB because he wants to get paid and it's starting to affect how he plays on the court, as we've seen in the past few games.

    We have strong character guys and as many of our own players have said, winning solves everything. If we don't win of course players are going to get antsy. And frankly, our losses have a lot to do with the coach.
     
  8. JayGoogle

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    How are you going to get a Star player?

    Morey tried. Teams just don't give you their star players. Bosh did not want to come here, we don't know if Melo wants to come either.

    We supposedly almost had Amare but it would not have been for an extension, Amare would have bolted for NYK since he was settled on that idea.

    Who are we going to get? Philly and Indy don't seem to be in a rush to trade Iggy or Granger? What is this star player Morey had but turned down for a deeper roster?

    If Melo wanted to come here I have no doubt Morey would pull the trigger, I believe he's said so but it takes two to tango.
     
  9. nodstonothing

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    I'm gonna judge Morey on the end results, not various unconfirmed reports posted on the internet. His roster is 0-3. That's all we have to judge him on. You can make excuses for every GM in the league if you really want to. It's a results business.
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    That's a simplistic way of looking at it. You can make excuses for anything. I'm trying to make a fact. If there were star players to be had, you'd have a point.

    Lebron
    Wade
    Bosh
    Amare
    Melo
    CP3

    Who else? What star player did we realistically have a shot at? Also the Rockets had no cap space and little flexibility. Did you forget just a year ago Morey put together a great roster and a legitimate Big 3 of Artest/Tmac/Yao? Of course Tmac begin to rapidly spiral into what he is now but Morey had no idea of knowing that a guy would decline that quickly.Morey quickly turned this around, this team has TONS of flexibility no matter what happens this year.
     
  11. Jeff Who

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    Wow, can't belive the boxscore. I watched the Nuggets last night against Hornets and they looked pretty weak on defense.

    What a shame, 0-3...
     
  12. Rocketboi

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    i honestly think we are too deep of a team, thats the problem of the team.

    we need to get rid of players, via trade to make our team less talented.
    not in the way it sounds
    i mean trade good players for an all star.
    so we can have a set rotation.
    having so many good players with so much potential is going to kill us.

    the only way were gonna have a rotation is if we get rid of players.
     
  13. Jeff Who

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    Now I see what Adelman did with Tracy last season. He gave him only 6 minutes because the team was young and he didn't want to destroy the chemistry.

    Now the same thing with Yao is killing this team. 24 minutes, no back to backs etc. We need to settle down and concern on basketball, not Yao's health.
     
  14. flamingdts

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    I don't understand a word you typed.

    Is it a new thing to call someone else a little girl when you disagree with their point of view? Damn, insults really suck these days.
     
  15. agpal77

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    You know what this team needs? A leader.
     
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    Pretty much. They have these alike type players so when they trade 1 or 2 of them, they have a replacement. Its like portland whne last year I said they need to streamline their roster. The difference is they had Roy as a star player. Webster,outlaw,fernendez,and batum were all fighting forabout 51 mins worth of playing time. I say 51 because roy was playing 35, so the 13 plus the 48 at the 3 spot. Even through injuries and after the trade, they started to play better. This team will find its rotation if someone missed a game or so.
     
  17. lalala902102001

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    I think that a lot of the chemistry problems can be solved by bringing Yao off the bench and playing him strictly with the second unit.

    However, that still does not address all our problems. Our defense is just bad and I don't see an easy fix for that because we simply don't have good defensive players.
     
  18. R·FernandeZ

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    Brooks do you know what the defence
     
  19. Yinlele

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    too bad i didn't watch the game.
     
  20. aggie87

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    Brooks is a poor defender, Martin is just as bad

    Battier is no longer an elite defender, more like average at best

    Scola is a poor defender

    Yao is decent but still nowhere near what he was pre injury
     

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