Seems like Bud is regressing as a player... his outside shot is almost painfully off-mark, and with rare exception he isn't slashing to the hoop enough (in fairness, TWill looked him off one time last night). At what point will Bud become Dan Langhi... no defense, minimal rebounding, and a tall stiff standing at the three point line without the ability to hit that shot?
Man, I wonder sometimes if folks know what they are watching out there, so much criticism of CBud and all of it inaccurate. The guy has played very good defense this year so far, better than both TWill and Parsons. And on offense he is the 4th option behind Lowry, Kmart and Scola, he is just not going to get a lot of shots, especially without them running the pin down screen where he swings around the wheel at the FT line for the short jimmy. Then you top that off with him playing about 18 minutes per night and I am not sure what people expect him to do. I think some people are just whining to whine..... Neither TWill, nor Parsons, nor Bud has gotten enough time to really settle in....and has performed like anyone would with inconsistent minutes. At the end of the day, we have TOO MANY PLAYERS playing, and no one is going to look good. Look at all of our players numbers they are all down..... Seriously people, CBud has not been great, but he has been OK.... Last night he was 4-9....which was more shots than he had in his first 2 games combined...and got 11 points..... And Chandler comes in against scrubs and goes 5 for 9 and folks rave about him....I mean it is shocking how bad the analysis is around here these days. DD
Parsons wouldnt be getting minutes if Bud was playing well. Parsons getting this much time should serve as a loud wake-up call to TWill and Bud to start producing immediately. But if they don't get it, well they don't get it. We simply don't have time to waste on guys who aren't producing.
Actually, my beef with Martin is more that I want CLee to start, and I think we can get more for Martin as he is valued around the league as an elite scorer. I just think he is a net zero on this team......we can make up his scoring with others, and get much better defense.... DD
You have to admit though that his shot just isn't falling at the moment. Therefore he shouldn't get that much reps. He is clanking wide open three's... I'm all for him to start hitting them again though!
Bud played pretty well last night and Parson's got in during garbage time.... The problem is inconsistent minutes.....no one is getting enough time to get comfortable.... DD
I don't think you can say his shot is falling or not.....he has had 17 shot attempts in 3 games.....and has not played more than 20 minutes in either of them. You have to get warmed up some time. I think McHale needs to choose...or not....seems to be working for us tanking fans.... DD
That's just excuses. When Lowry came off the bench in limited minutes he produced. Even PatPat last year produced after getting sent down to the D-League and then getting erratic minutes. Dalembert is producing in limited minutes so far. No more excuses for TWill or Bud. They aren't rookies anymore. They need to play up to their talent level.
They are producing, it is expecations that are out of whack, they are not the number 1, 2 or 3 option out there....at best they are the 4th option. And they are getting that amount of touches. Maybe if folks would take a look at that aspect they would not be tossing guys under the bus uneccessarily. I do find it funny that Parsons is getting so much play when he lit it up in garbage time, and with Thabeet it was poo pood as garbage time. It seems to be popular to go along with the general public without thinking for yourself. DD DD
Even though your quote was something akin to that you knew that Martin wouldn't fit in with McHale's offense and after one game you posted that to sort of prove your point? Isn't that similar to what posters are doing with respect to Parsons?
I can see your point, sure. The issue with Martin as I see it, is that so far, we are relying on a 2 man game, the read and react motion offense is long gone, or has been so far, which limits touches for a lot of our players and contributes to some people not getting enough shots (chase cough cough). I don't believe over the long haul that having Kevin Martin as the main scoring option in this sort of offense or lack of it, will work. If a team has an athletic wing to guard him, like Jason Richardson in Orlando he will struggle. To me, it is simply a case of Martin being BETTER with a good system that suits his game, and that is not the direction that Kevin McHale seems to be going. I like Kmart, could not wait to get him, especially with Adelman, but now that Rick is gone, I think they need to flip Martin before his stats drop too much further..... DD
Martin has been ballin like usual in the last 2. Funny how DD is bringing up this net zero crap again yet he goes to such lengths to defend an average player in Bud.
That is because CBud is being maligned by folks just going with the flow and not actually analyzing what is going down on the basketball floor, it is the pile on mentality and it is weak. As for Kmart, I have been consistent, he is great as instant offense, but he is by far the worst defender I have ever seen, and if you score 20 and give up 20, you are not really helping all that much. I contend that the team would be BETTER overall with CLee getting his minutes..... I love his offense, don't like his defense - and would rather have a guy that can do a bit of everthing at that position over a guy who is one dimensional. The arguments are not related Sammy, they are individual in nature. DD
With a special talent like Martin, and yes, he is a special talent... you need to put the right pieces around him to make it work. Trading him is not the best plan... unless you get a clear upgrade. Lowry is the perfect piece next to Martin. Heck, Lowry is the ideal PG next to most SGs. What Martin needs is a first option on offense that can attrack attention and a SF that will be able to not only guard the opposition's best wing player but also provide help defenses when needed. Martin needs an Iggy. It's easy for us to forget why Martin is such a unique player in the league. He scored 20+ points in ~20 mins the past few games on very few possessions. Put him in the right situation and he is worth every last penny on his contract. If I'm Morey, I'm less concerned about Martin and more looking to find the right SF to put around him. BUD IS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT the answer. I will bet you tip jar money that he is much better served coming off the bench and that his career will be a serviceable backup with flaws.
Valo, Fine by me, if you want to keep Martin you have to protect him with better defenders on the team.....especially in the paint. JHill is not the answer.....Dally needs to start, and Thabeet needs to back him up...keep a shot blocker in there all game long. DD
Dally is for sure certain to start pretty soon. It's inevitable. Maybe not vs ATL but after the next round of practices, it'll happen. My question is do you really think Chase is our long term answer at the 3? I want him to develop into at least an average starting SF, I really do. But this is his 3rd season and he's had plenty chances to take the next step. Maybe instead of playing volleyball over the summer he should've developed and IMPROVED his game. No matter who you put next to Chase, he will still be the same player.
Very short sample size in three games. Budinger has looked horrible so far, IMHO. 4-9 is by far his best shooting night. Budinger has missed open shots. Parsons at least is hitting open shots and rebounding. Short sample size should be taken with a grain of salt. That said, I just think Budinger would fit better in Adelman's offense where he can use his off the ball cutting skills more. Rockets offense is a mess right now. Parsons has at least had moments when he looked to be providing good defense. A game that was decided by the big men really shouldn't be used to judge the littles too much though.
