I think around $1 million....the Tmac and Yao situation screwed Von...our cap was locked..... I don't blame Morey or Von...it was circumstance. DD
RV6, I don't know what u mean by inconsistent with outlaw. The guy s game is very consistent. Last yr was his 1st playoffs and he struggled as do a lot of guys in their first go around. Go look what shane did his first playoffs. His midrange game used to be a staple of a complete basketball player. Now days, guys either shot the 3 or drive all the way to the rack. What he does in recognize his shot. This is what I used to preach to young kids all day. Recognize a good shot for u. A good shot for kobe is different than one for shane or other guys. Outlaw right now is a better basketball player than battier and ariza. He's not a dumb basketball player, he just plays with blinders on sometimes, but his ability and skill level is attractive to a lot of teams. In portland,they're just loaded and he's due for a upgrade. When u can get off a quality shot against anyone, that counts more than a guy that can't.
Outlaw is NOT a better basketall player than Battier or Ariza, he is more athletic and a better scorer, but his D is pretty weak, and his BBall IQ is not all that great. He is a lot like Von Wafer, a very talented offensive guy, better suited to being the 6th man on a team that has stars to take the pressure off of him If you put Outlaw in place of Battier or Ariza he would still struggle he is not a 1st or 2nd option guy. Come on Leeb, I like him too, but let's not exaggerate here... DD
Portland committed 26 TO, and won. That is not a good sign for us. If that rebounding difference continues, then we'll have to put Dorsey in because its the one thing he is very good at. Thats scary considering we'll be in the penalty anytime he plays any extended minutes.
I would vote to bench the guy who was completely abysmal on offense, as opposed to the guy who was only mostly abysmal after the first quarter. Can we still do the Outlaw for Battier deal???
Morey will get a better deal if he holds onto Shane Battier right now and trade him next summer, when Battier will have only one year left in his contract.
For the salaries to match for both teams, you have to do a Battier for Outlaw+Bayless deal. Even if Portland says yes to that offer I'm not sure that's what Morey wants. Outlaw's contract expires in 2010 and could end up too expensive to keep around.
Agreed. Great physical talent with a matured shooting skillset. But low bball iq and cannot grind. The uptempo style makes his game shine.
Won't happen. The only thing Dorsey is good at is hacking. He can't stay on the floor long enough to do anything. That's why he's not going to play. Our rebounding base will come from Scola/Hayes/Landry/Pops. Scola and Landry were the biggest reason we had nothing last night. They were totally ineffective and it hurt us on the glass tremendously. Then Adelman went with Andersen for the majority of the minutes backing up Hayes. And Portland just torched us on the interior. We needed more Lowry penetration and contact earlier to drive them deep into foul count against Oden, LA, and JP.
This game was a tale of two halves. 1st half was a disaster - our starters were not good tonight. 2nd half Adelman made great adjustments. He gave his starters a chance to turn the ship around but they didn't. Going with the Brooks / Lowry combo was a good move and opened up the running game a lot more. That's what we needed. I am very encouraged that we only lost this game by 9 points. Overall, am pleased with the effort and game.
DD, outlaw is just as good of a defender as ariza and a far superior offensive player to both shane and trevor and u know this. He isn't von wafer either whom I think is a pretty good player. He's only a 6th man because they're stacked and they like his offense with the 2nd unit, but he is a starter and #3 option in the nba and he's getting better. Now if u want to say any gm other morey wouldn't take outlaw over shane or trevor, that's u. He has a big ball of clay to work with and he's getting better.The guy has made numerous game winning shots in his young career which is great considering he plays with Roy. BTW, doesn't roy look like a ball stopper?
Here's the Pro Basketball Prospectus writeup on Outlaw. While Travis Outlaw is just 25, he is beginning his seventh NBA season after entering the league out of high school, and at this point it is probably a mistake to speak of Outlaw’s potential. At this point, he more or less is what he is; how valuable that package is remains open for debate. The skills that allow Outlaw to play either forward position are useful, yet he is frustrating to watch because he continues to make the same mistakes time and again. Outlaw seemingly improved his efficiency last year, as his True Shooting Percentage went up 4.1 percent, but this was more likely the effect of having to create fewer of his own shots. One clear trend is that Outlaw is far more effective at power forward than playing small forward. Against bigger defenders, Outlaw can use his quickness to get to the basket off the dribble or get open looks from threepoint range. Per 82games.com, Outlaw averaged 7.0 more points per 40 minutes at the four last season while improving his shooting percentages; the difference was similar the previous year. With the departure of Channing Frye and the return of Martell Webster, Outlaw will probably spend more time up front this year. However, he may be hard-pressed to get minutes at small forward with so much competition at the position. Our numbers show Outlaw to be an effective individual defender, holding opponents to 86.1 percent of their usual production. However, Nate McMillan was frustrated with Outlaw’s defense at times. Teammates joked in The Oregonian that Outlaw is a "warm-up" defender; he has to warm up the first three quarters to get going. Hollinger's opinion: 2008-09 season: Now that the Blazers are an offensive juggernaut, it's quality, not quantity, that's key for Portland, and Outlaw responded in kind. Outlaw shot less often and more accurately than he had his previous three seasons, an exchange the Blazers welcomed since they've become much less dependent on his ability to generate shots. Outlaw drastically cut the long 2s that had been the staple of his offense. Only 28.0 percent of his shots were long 2s, compared to 47.8 percent the season before. He replaced those with higher-value 3s, more than doubling his attempts from the season before and making 37.7 percent. Outlaw rarely passed the ball -- only four small forwards had a lower assist ratio -- and his rebound rate dipped from the lofty standards he set last season. In the end, though, he again rated among the league's most productive reserves. Scouting report: Outlaw has a long, slender frame and is athletic in the sense that he can jump and run fast in straight lines. He's all arms and legs, though, and has a lot of trouble moving laterally. This affects him at the defensive end while chasing players through screens and tracking dribblers. So despite a high rate of blocks and the ability to bother shooters with his length, he's an average defender overall. His lack of strength also hurts him when he plays as an undersized 4: He gives up post position quite easily. Offensively, Outlaw has a nice jump shot with great elevation, and at 6-foot-9 he can loft it over virtually any opposing small forward. He'll sometimes force it early in the clock, and he lacks great off-the-dribble moves that would allow him to get to the basket. Additionally, he should add a shot fake that would earn him some extra freebies at the line. Outlaw dribbles solely to score and has zero court vision. And a short blurb from an opposing team's scout on CNNSI: Travis Outlaw is continually improving. I admire him for staying at it and improving his jump shot year after year, to the point that they go to him at the end of games to make shots. He's a very good, versatile defender whom you can play at power forward, and he runs the floor ahead of the pack.
Kwame, seriously? So typical of you, you always "challenge" others to present things for you, to answer things, etc. You make others do all the work and then blast them when they refuse and you also jump on any comments OTHERS make to your advantage. No offense to leebigez, but if he hadn't mentioned Outlaw you would never have even mentioned him. If Leebigez starts suggesting Ryan Bowen you'd jump on that too just because Lee is also for replacing shane. That's what you're doing with this guy, you ride every single poster that's not pro-shane and immediately act like their best friend in hopes that they'll help you argue your point. I'm tired of answering things for you because you selectively pick what posts to read. I commented to Leebigez on when trading shane would be best, and also mentioned trading shane earlier if Ariza can completely replace him defensively, how that is refusing or being against trading shane at all costs like you implied, i have no idea...give it up already..
No, we took the lakers 1-3 without Yao. We can't discount what Yao did for us in those first 3 games, there's no way we match that without him.
First, as far as i know, Wafer didn't play 36 minutes a game, so why use his scoring per 36 mins? Let Budinger jack up shots for 36 mins a night and he'll definitely get you those 18 pts as well. Second of all, budinger is first round talent, he slipped, but he's more than capable of providing like a first rounder. Third, Wafer was only "efficient" because Adelman yanked him out all the time. The moment he started screwing up he was out. Any player will be more efficient than he truly is if a coach took him out once he went cold or got mentally rattled. Fourth, i said that could be in year one, but maybe year two. Budinger can definitely get 10 pts a game this year, which is what Von averaged for us.
