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Post-Game Analysis: Blazers 96, Rockets 87

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Oct 27, 2009.

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  1. RV6

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    i wouldnt pay too much attention to them, they got more than a few things wrong during the telecast, especially about the rockets,
     
  2. leebigez

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    Shane shouldnt have ever happened. Yeah, i said it.
     
  3. rhino17

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    They did, but they are one of the better local telecast teams out there imo. They seem more reliable than some.
     
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    To be clear, I wasn't blaming effort or strategy. It was more of a commentary on how detrimental our height deficiency might be this year. I know Portland is one of the longer teams in the league, but it's not as though they simply beat us on the boards...they beat us in a way that has only happened 3 times in the last 750 games or so.
     
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    Durvasa those weren't my words. I said Battier was garbage, as in that is how he played tonight. I don't think anyone can dispute that.

    Portland has shown a willingness to deal Outlaw in the past and they've basically done everything other than publicly say that Webster is favored over him. Bayless is now 3rd string and Batum and Fernandez are unlikely to be part of a trade, but you never know.

    Given the makeup of the Trailblazers' roster, a veteran defender like Battier who could provide some leadership and "intagibles" seems like the type of guy that would be a good fit in Portland. It would be a mutually beneficial relationship in my opinion. Also, given the type of player Portland's coach used to be, I'm sure he would like to have a guy like Battier on his team.

    Would you trade Battier for Outlaw and Bayless?

    I like the idea too, but it's a luxury. At this point, I would prefer to get younger, more athletic, and more talented. I agree that Fernandez and Batum are unlikely, but Bayless is now a third string player. I could see Battier for Outlaw and Bayless as a plausible scenario.

    RV6 there really is no point in debating with a self professed Battier lover and apologist such as yourself, but Bayless is now a third string player behind Blake and Miller. For some reason the Blazers favor Webster over Outlaw.

    Would you trade Battier for Outlaw and Bayless? Yes or no?
     
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    Did anyone see how much better the offense looked (particularly the fastbreak) when we moved Aaron Brooks to the SG, and most importantly, Lowry to the PG?


    It is not a coincidence...
     
  7. leebigez

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    Its a dominoe effect. When you have a 0 inside in terms of height and ability, teams will go to the rack alot more and get easy open shots. Then since the rockets have no one offensively, they can pressure the few guys that can score a little. What you get is 1 team that is taking the ball out the net and shooting bricks on the other end.
     
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    Battier did his job in the playoffs.

    Single coverage of Bryant while keeping him off the line.
     
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    Second that.

    Guys sound like Shane's "intangibles" are even harder to replace than a superstar's ability to creat offense.
     
  10. ibm

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    i knew where you're coming from. and that's what pains me about this team right now.

    and "that has only happened 3 times in the last 750 games or so"? yeah, i can believe that. you've gotta keep in mind, how many times in these 750 or so games did the rockets did NOT have a 7-footer? just saying...
     
  11. durvasa

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    Just a weird statistical anomaly, I think. The Rockets PF/C combined for 19 rebounds over the 48 minutes, which isn't great but not necessarily that uncommon. Last season, they averaged 26.6 rebounds, and held opposing PF/Cs to 22.8.
     
  12. RV6

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    obviously not...i think this stat has been beaten to death on this board before and it mainly involves battier and brooks. It'll be brought up almost every game thread. i guess no one notices that these guys are the most likely to sometimes play almost 48 minutes, so their +/- will fluctuate more. other guys may go in for limited minutes and/or only be on the court with the starters. these guys mix it up and that means they won't always be playing with the best guys or wont always be part of a bench scoring punch, they will also be there during the bad stretches more often.
     
  13. RV6

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    yeah i mentioned that earlier...i was hoping chuck would be that low scoring but high rebounding guy he was in the past 2 yrs when he would start, hopefully it's not a trend. This portland team is very long though, best offensive rebounding team for a reason, so i think we should be better than this from now on
     
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    Well that win against Denver shouldn't have happened. Blame Chuck Hayes and the others who led a comeback.

    It happened. We got the eight pick. We really only wanted Roy. Got Shane. The End.
     
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    What's up my man 100 grand? I thought you took the season of since Yao wasn't playing and rode around in the hummer:D

    On another note, we have been down this road a million times and i've been on the same side of the gate. Last summer the rockets couldve gotten 2 players what they paid Barry. They couldve gotten Mbenga for 1m and Elson for 1.3m. Are any of these guys great? No, but what wouldve been created was depth behind Yao with size and unique skills. DJ is a 28 strong 7 fter that blk shots, rebound and is tough. Elson is a wiry 7ft er who can hit the midrange shot and is a good defender also. You put those 2 guys on the rockets roster last yr vs barry and yao probably only plays 30 mins a night and the rocket probably handle the lakers a little better because now they have size.
     
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    you've been saying it, it's not a big deal...
     
  17. leebigez

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    Its hard to rebound getting the ball out the net as my old coach would say
     
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    U right, trade the 8th pick for a a player declining since the rookie yr.
     
  19. ibm

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    iirc, wasn't juwan (who sat on portland bench tonight) the main force in that game?
     
  20. RV6

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    Bayless it not a 3rd string player, he's stuck in a third string position, there's a difference. Portland actually hasnt been open to dealing him because of his potential. Miller and possibly Blake won't be around when the core of this team peaks, that's where bayless comes in...
     

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