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Post-Bosh catastrophe: Do we match Parsons?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RedRedemption, Jul 11, 2014.

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Match Parsons?

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  2. No.

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  1. JayGoogle

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    People just don't think that PArsons/HArden/Dwight core plus Mchale will win us a championship.

    I can give a **** about being better...if it's not good enough to win a championship then I don't care.
     
  2. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Let him walk Morey and while you're at it please get some senses and fire McHale - he is amongst the top reasons free agents don't want to come here after the embarassment he caused last season
     
  3. Ottomaton

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    By that logic you should never have traded for Harden, because he only made you better, he didn't bring you a championship. That trade barely pushed the team above a .500% winning percentage.

    To walk on a journey of a thousand miles, you go forward by taking one step at a time and repeating until you get there.
     
  4. knickstorm

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    You're not going all the way with Parsons next year anyway. Suck it up and try again for a superstar in 2015.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    But getting worse doesn't win a championship either. Getting worse doesn't help you attract free agents or win a championship either.

    Not having Parsons as trade piece to get a third star doesn't win a championship either.

    I have a hard time believing that if people don't think the Rockets will win a championship it wouldn't be more fun seeing the Rockets make a deep run in the playoffs because they are better, than watching the Rockets not even do as well as they did last season.

    For me it's more fun winning than losing. So I want to win more. True it's the most fun winning a championship, but even if I believed that I wasn't going to win a championship, I would still want to win as much as possible.
     
  6. solid

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    Absolutely not; too much for a role player.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Maybe with just Parsons, but you don't know who else we can add during the off season or what trades can be made during the year.
     
  8. ksny15

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    If you let Parsons walk your pretty much saying sorry Harden and Howard there's always 2015. Morey needs to stop playing for a 3rd star its getting stupid. Not matching parsons all but assures D12 opts out early. He wants to win. He's really screwd up this offseason. I really hope he can salvage it. That 1st rounder really really hurt we lost with Lin. I'm sick of this 3rd star BS
     
  9. Chilly_Pete

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    Yes we have to match the offer for Parsons.
     
  10. PullUpJ

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    If we signed some free agents and matched Parsons. Could we SnT him to Boston for Rondo in 2015?
     
  11. Snorkin

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    I was hoping to take a nap and wake up to news that bosh has signed with the rockets and that we matched cp25. Boy was I wrong. I went from blissful sleep to a nightmare.
     
  12. Spacemoth

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    He's 25. Still too young to be eating himself out of the league Shawn Kemp style. He will want more contracts after this one.
     
  13. Ottomaton

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    The question you ask, IMO, is -

    Once you get to the point that you can reasonably trade Parsons again, at that point will he (along with the contract) become a net positive asset in trade talks, or net negative.

    If you reasonably project a likelihood of net neutral to net positive as a trade chip, you match.

    If you get down to Parsons at max money with two years left, it isn't a great value proposition, there is a reasonable chance that a package built around Parsons and other assets might seem like a decent consolation prize to get back.

    It'll never be a great value, but I can not foresee a situation where Chandler Parsons becomes an Amare-style albatross that you will never get off your books.
     
  14. HighlightReel

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    ^this . Matching Parsons = first round exit here we go again
     
  15. Rocketman7

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    Who cares now.
    With or without Parsons the Rockets are still an 8th seed.
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    No, because after we got Harden we still had flexibility. Getting Parsons means committing him to the core of our team.


    Well that's the thing.

    How tradeable is Parsons at that price?

    I want to win championships, that's all. I'm not sure Parsons is a max guy and I don't want to hear in a year or two that he's a bad contract...
     
  17. cdrive

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    Parsons needs to be on this team next year. Christ.

    We have Harden & Howard: Reloaded. Plus.
    We got rid of pouty pants, takes offensive fails to level epic Mr. Asik. Plus
    We got rid of Lin. Plus.
    We can get assistant coaches and make them sign a 'don't Kevin Sumlin / kelvin Sampson our ass' clause. Plus

    Sign Troy Daniels. +
    Nick Johnson. +
    Terrence Jones. Yes absolutely Terrence Jones. +
    Melo would've been a disaster. No seriously. +
    Clint Capela 2nd behind Marcus Smart in WARP. +

    Go fill this roster. Do it in 48 hrs.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    It depends on Parsons. If he plays well, his contract isn't going to deter everyone. That's especially true with collective bargaining mandating that teams spend at least 90% of their salary cap. And there are teams like the 76ers that well below that, and they need players that cost money.

    Nothing is a guarantee and all of these projections about will or won't happen or just guesses. I fully admit that I could be wrong, and I respect different arguments and opinions.
     
  19. Spacemoth

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    What? No! You're taking crazy pills.
     
  20. Ottomaton

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    The key to success in life is getting back up dusting yourself off, and keeping going after a failure.

    The mindset here seems to be that people have descended into nihilism, that all hope is lost, and we should just give up, trade away all the salaries, and start over with tanking.

    The self-pity here today is overwhelmingly pathetic.

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    Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.

    -Thomas A. Edison

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    Thomas Edison famously failed like a million different times when trying to invent a light bulb. We all know his name because every time he failed, he didn't sink into self-pity and give up, or switch the plan around and start trying instead to invent a better potato peeler, or something. Rather he got back up and kept trying. He didn't take a single failure as sign that all was hopeless, like many seem to be doing.
     

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