Damn... Just my luck...the one chance i had of defeating my enemy... WE WILL MEET AGAIN!!! (leaving on a horse, obvisouly retreating in shame!!!) Hey, Anyone know what happened to that proposed deal with the Cavaliers sending Kevin Ollie for Eric Piaktowski? I actually want pike to sya for his outside shooting...I think last year, he had a rough season due to injuries and a new system... He would be a good experienced role player off the bench for McGrady...
Drexler22, I dont hate the blind, I bet Stevie Wonder can drop 17 and 7 if he had to play on the crap Magic team. http://msn.foxsports.com/story/2566114 Why did we retire this guys number who only played for 4 years?
This guy cracks me up. He keeps spouting how Howard is garbage, and then "proves" his point by comparing him to all-stars. Big whoop.
In that case I agree with you... Just don't expect Howard to do too much... 3 out of 5 ain't bad... Considering the fact that the other 2 were his rookie season and an injury plagued season...
No kidding, I believe this is the anniversary of the Aaron burr and Alexander Hamilton duel, get it on.
Dude, do the math. Look at the stats and winning percentage. If comparing Howard to Stevie Wonder, Mo Taylor, Raef La Frenz are all stars, then you must be thinking the AND1 Mix Tape tour is the NBA Finals. Fact- Juwan Howard dumped on Houston because he is overpaid. Else they could have given us Drew Gooden or any other scrub. Fact- Juwan doesn't get resigned to Denver because they prefer Nene. So if Juwan is so proven why did they let him go? Fact- Juwan Howard is on bad teams. We're not talking teams that don't make the playoffs, we are talking bottom. Except for that 1.5 seasons he was with Dallas. Being a bad team for a couple of years, but consistently not helping your teams out for 10years? How about comparing this guy to Robert Horry? Look at the rings. Look at the Clutch Shots! the key word is CLUTCH. Contributing when it matters. Something Juwan has not proved. He could have proved it with the Mavericks but didn't. Mo Taylor is younger and better than Juwan Howard.
Aaaand.... no one ever disagreed with this. So what? He can't help it. Mo Taylor is even more egregiously overpaid. Wow Sherlock, really? They prefer Nene? You must be joking! You don't have to be as valuable a commodity as Nene to be considered decent. Oh gee, you're right, since Denver will be contenders next year. Ohhhh wait! They're REBUILDING. I hear REBUILDING teams want YOUNG players. Howard is a good player, he just isn't a young player. Here we go again! Let's compare him to Robert Horry, one of the biggest clutch shot makers in the last decade! If you compared everyone's clutch shooting to Horry's, everyone in the league would "suck." And last time I checked, Barkley didn't have any rings either. Neither does Garnett, or Jermaine O'Neal. Do they suck? And since you think Nene is clearly better than Howard, as you assume them picking him over Howard was not just an age thing, what has Nene "proved"? He has career averages of 11 and 6 on a terrible team. Wooooow. Yes, he's younger. Better? Well he can score. That's it. No rebounding, no D. At least Howard can sort of rebound, but I'd say Howard and Taylor are right around equal overall.
Amazingly got some boards? He avg. 3.2 boards per game and 4 personal fouls. Now I guess we could streech it a little and say with more playing time that he would avg 8+, but no... that won't work on the account that if he played 48 mins, he would have 8+fouls. Now he was guarding the amazing Malone, with his quick drives to the basket and powerful post game... okay sorry I can't stop from laughing... Taylor should have eaten Malone alive, all the other teams did. Juwan, Spoon, and Taylor are all over payed and are not what we are looking for in a team that needs a bruising PF. Out of the three I would take Juwan, he plays defense and has a respectable mid-range game. Oh and he can stay in the game and grab some rebounds.
reason for taylor's fouls was because he used up fouls for shaq to spell yao. You all saw him guard shaq. It's a foul waiting to happen.
FACT - Howard was JUST SIGNED by Orlando last season (no one forced him on them) FACT - HOWARD/MCGRADY was the second highest scoring Post-guard tandeum in the NBA last season (next to Shaq-Kobe) FACT - by your championship=better player logic, Pete Chili-cutt would be better than Karl Malone, since he has a ring... or maybe Matt Bullard is better than Steve Nash... and I guess Luke Longly is a better than Garnett FACT - you have probably only seen 4-5 Orlando games in your life (most likely when they played the Rox and Howard was Yao's *****) and you have no idea it he is actually any good and I wouldn't use Denver as a judge of talent... they just signed Marcus "sleepy-walking" Camby to a OUTRAGEOUS deal
Hey Guys, I'd just like to point out that, if we keep getting players from eastern conference, then put up a team we want them to be something great. How will we survice the brutal western conf with a med-level eastern conf players? Sure doesn't make sense, we need a great PG(from west. Conf team or star quality player from east) to run our offense, and a back center(big guy does dirty work).
Willis, I have seen many Magic games, my favorite 4 were in 1995. Did you mention BULLARD?? you might anger alot of people here with that comment. I can't believe you guys can't see it. Juwan sucks. He's Joe Smith. A really overhyped player. Willis I saw the Rockets get whipped by the Nuggets this year where Camelo Anthony tore us up. I think they do have talent. Marcus Camby is a good defensive player. Willis, Juwan has a reputation of losing, for his entire career. This is not the case where Webber leaves DC and 'suddenly' gets better. Or Jason Kidd when he leaves Dallas. Juwan Howard is not a good defensive player. Juwan Howard gets lots of rebounds becuase he plays for crappy teams. If you your teammates klang the ball, you will get a board once in awhile. When the Rockets won the 1st championship, we were the WORSE OFFENSIVE REBOUNDING Team. That was deceiving because we had great rebounders in Thorpe and Dream. We just jacked up many 3 pointers which lead to longer rebounds. Juwan was on the Magic where only 1 guy can make shots. So he had to catch of the bricks. A big improvement over Mo Taylor's rebounding? I wouldnt say so. Mo Taylor shoots lots of jumpers so naturally wouldnt get as many boards. Plus we had Yao and Kato who clean up much of the boards. What the Rockets truly need is a 'Robert Horry' type guy. A shot blocker, Tashon Prince type, gritty role player who can make shots when needed. You might diss Horry cause he's a cool dude, but he plays great D. He always gets the tough task of defending Duncan, Malone, Garnett, Wallace, etc etc.. I fear Juwan will get smoked on D next year. Having Mo Taylor, Weatherspoon, and Juwan on the same team is have 3 of the same player. Mo being the best. We need to get rid of one or two of them.
Yeah i agree. I liked Mo the best, $7.8 is a great deal for a big man like Mo, he's my favourite 6th man in the league. But Juwan Howard deserve another look, besides we can't trade him before December anyway, so let him play 20 games, if he blows, we send him packing. And most Weatherspoon's game sucked last year, that guy just can't make any great play. I mean cato ocassionaly dunk make the crowd go wild. Weatherspoon........this guy is too short to match up with KG or Duncan, can't shoot, what are we paying him for anyway. I wonder why did they even bring him in last season.
I was excited when I saw a box score with Howard shooting 13-19 for 38 points in the second to last game of the season with 31 minutes of playing time. Then I scanned over to see he got 2 rebounds.
Because Nellie wanted someone to pull Shaq out of the paint. Nellie was very clear on this when he traded for LaFrentz. Plus he saw LaFrentz as a very young shot blocker. Everyone including just about everyone on this board including myself at the time thought LaFrentz was turning into an awesome Center / Forward. However when he went to Dallas he turned into a dud. Dallas did not trade Howard for the LaFrentz they had in Dallas thought they were getting the LaFrentz that they saw in Denver.
